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Thread: LORDSECKMOUTH ITS TIME TO DEMANED AND STOP **edit** FOOTING AROUND

maddogs
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:07 pm
#1


1 or 2 things need to hapen asp and i mean this week not next month


ither take the dlay after specails away from the har now or


give us + 20 speed on all are weps at master


they promised us some thing and gave us **edit** now they have to make up for it and i mean NOW

NOT NEXT MONTH



GL LORDS AND GO GET THEM

Message Edited by maddogs on 03-16-2004 11:08 AM



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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

StarVoyager
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:11 pm
#2
Agreed. This change was very insulting in my opinion.
Darkul
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:18 pm
#3
THe thing is that i pay, and i see what they do and just....well better not say
SidoDuban
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:26 pm
#4
/**edit** devs?


Jadel Greko - starsider
TennerRavenstar
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:34 pm
#5




maddogs wrote:



1 or 2 things need to hapen asp and i mean this week not next month


ither take the dlay after specails away from the har now or


give us + 20 speed on all are weps at master


they promised us some thing and gave us **edit** now they have to make up for it and i mean NOW

NOT NEXT MONTH



GL LORDS AND GO GET THEM

Message Edited by maddogs on 03-16-2004 11:08 AM




Demanding stuff, and typing rants in large fonts won't get anything done. None of us (includeing our correspondent) are in any position to "demand" anything. Doing so will only insure that nothing happens. We all want changes and fixes to the profession, but howling like a pack of wolf with rabies won't make that happen. The best way to get stuff done is a) be constructive and argument our case in a resoned and consistant manner. Yes we do need to keep reminding the devs that we feel some serious attention is due, but it has to be done in a mature manner if we are to ahve any hope of getting ANYTHING.


Right now you can be 100% sure thier response will be "wait untill the combat revamp next publish". Since they are supposedly redoing a lot of the stuff central to combat I can see thier argument for waiting, even if I'd rather get a lot of fixes here and now.


In other wrods, post like the above might be good for venting some fustration, but will accomplish absolutly nothing. To have any cahnce of actually getting changes, constructive feedback, persistance and supporting our Correspondent is the best we can do.. even if changes are slow in comming



Mazoch - ImperialSpy
"I cry NOW. Death, like a familiar, hears; and look, has made a man of dust of a man of flesh. This sorcery I do. Being damned, I am amused to see the centre of love diffused and the wave of love travel into vacancy. How easy it is to make a ghost." - Keith Duglas; How to Kill

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maddogs
Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:39 pm
#6




TennerRavenstar wrote:



*SNIP*


The best way to get stuff done is a) be constructive and argument our case in a resoned and consistant manner. Yes we do need to keep reminding the devs that we feel some serious attention is due, but it has to be done in a mature manner if we are to ahve any hope of getting ANYTHING.



Right now you can be 100% sure thier response will be "wait untill the combat revamp next publish". Since they are supposedly redoing a lot of the stuff central to combat I can see thier argument for waiting, even if I'd rather get a lot of fixes here and now.


In other wrods, post like the above might be good for venting some fustration, but will accomplish absolutly nothing. To have any cahnce of actually getting changes, constructive feedback, persistance and supporting our Correspondent is the best we can do.. even if changes are slow in comming





um maybe you havent ben around long but i am one of the ones that has done nothing but throw facts after facts out even wasting my presious time to figure ou the modifers on are weps


i have masterd every balsted commabat profesion and we have the lowest dps of every single one both in pvp and in pve and on top of that we spend 3x as much skillpoints then 99% of the other combat profesions

and i have declard this often and pointed it out sent pms to all the devs and never get a dang reply


then finly they pm me and tell me there going to fix the harand make it better


so im like wooot im so happy and i pm thanking them for finly doing some thing


but you know what i see a few things in tc that really make me wounder and start testing and start pming them telling that this is not fixing it its just makeing it look better

i get pm back say ok ill lookinto it onec agen im happy

big day rols around and what hapens


they spent 5-10minets throwing a dang pach on the thing and not really doing **edit**


now whats going to be my atitued you tell me




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Ster
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:05 pm
#7
I hear that maddogs. I understand your frustration with the issue and agree with your stances. I think he was just saying that the outburst might not have been the best way to go about stating that frustration. However, like you said we have been constructive in the past (you have given many facts as well) with no result. How are we supposed to act? Give more facts and figures that have been said over and over. In my opinion, your outburst while untactful, is still justified.



Ster Nemor... The last of the Mononokians
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Master TKA
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TheRealChriss
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:23 pm
#8
i'm pretty sure they said they were going to fix the stacking accuracy and speed mods, and that would be all for this publish...



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KureJiBaka
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:05 am
#9
Last I heard "Demands are not welcome on these boards" Posted by a CSR who Locked a Demand Thread.



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Ster
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:14 am
#10
Your right TennerRavenstar, but apparently coherent responses and critisicm are not welcomed or heard either. hence the last publish that 'fixed' us.



Ster Nemor... The last of the Mononokians
Master Commando
Master TKA
Pistoleer 0030
TennerRavenstar
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:33 am
#11





Ster wrote:
Your right TennerRavenstar, but apparently coherent responses and critisicm are not welcomed or heard either. hence the last publish that 'fixed' us.






True


Like everyone else, I wish the devs had done more for the broken professions of the game. As far as I can tell, the HAR "fixes" was simply a quick change to at least remove the obvious bugs with the HAR (non stacking accuracy and speed). If anything is going to happen, it will be part of the next publish. My real concern is not so much the rather unimpressive HAR fix, but rather that the devs have been so close mouthed about what they plan for the whole combat revamp thing. That is going to be the make or break for combat and the combat professions of the game. And yet, so far we've only heard vague hints at best. Little to no concrete changes have been posted. So we're left wondering if the whole thing will be just a storm in a tea cup, or if it'll actually make a big difference. It's hard to hope for the best considering the track record of the devs when it comes to a lot of the bugs and issues in the game. But alas... i guess we'll see. Personally, if publish 8 doesn't mark a serious improvement for the commando proff,I expect I'llbe leaving it. But I guess we'll see

Message Edited by TennerRavenstar on 03-16-2004 12:44 PM



Mazoch - ImperialSpy
"I cry NOW. Death, like a familiar, hears; and look, has made a man of dust of a man of flesh. This sorcery I do. Being damned, I am amused to see the centre of love diffused and the wave of love travel into vacancy. How easy it is to make a ghost." - Keith Duglas; How to Kill

YenishRavenstar- Work in progress
garvin
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:36 am
#12

Maddog...


It's gotten to the point, at least for me, where you just have to laugh...


Constantly we've sent a clear message to the Dev's of what we want and don't want...And we've told them what was good and what was a COMPLETE waste of time...The HAR is a PERFECT example...We told them not to even bother fixing this weapon as, even fully functional, it's still just a weaker clone of the FT with no DoT but the same restrictions...Most high level NPC's with high heat resists also have the same acid resists...so what's the point...but just like in the past, again they don't listen...and when we try to spell it out for them, we are accused of Ranting and Whining and told to "just wait for the patch"....


Someday they (the dev's) might figure out that we actually know what we are talking about and start listening to our suggestions...if they had in this case they'd never have spent the time and effort on the HAR and might have actually gotten something useful done for us instead...


This isn't a rant or a whine...this is just what we've seen so far...But I'm not giving up...I'm holding JustG to his word...he said eventually the Dev's will get around to us..we might have to wait, but our turn will come...and so we continue to wait...


Of course that doesn't mean we won't keep piping up in the meantime just to keep things interesting...LOL





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie
Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith
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Skeptic666
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:56 am
#13

Ya I hear ya G. At least I had a brief Hope of something working for us. I wish they would at least lie to me and say we will fix your stuff in a week and just keep moving it like that I mean its what they are doing but saying next publish at least then ide have a lil more hope for a while.



I had hopes for the HAR but I knew this was going to happen





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