Commando Archive

Thread: Commando's according to Zarl0k

DrRuffleburg
Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:37 am
#1

Apparently we are getting a 30k credit,rapid fire tactical nuclear warhead launcher that does upwards of 500k damage to the entire planet. Hell why don't they just give us a portable super laser.


people are so stupid.




roar?
Ivoni
Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:13 am
#2

I've tried showing Zarl0k the truth, but when I do he accuses me of lying.

Shrug.

Was nice of him to provide data that the T-21 still does more damage than the rocket launcher so we can ask for even more damage.

Hehehehe.



Ivoni the Bunny Slayer
1st Master Commando on Intrepid (retired for jedi hunt)
1st Holocron - Master Ranger (done)
2nd Holocron - Master Squad Leader (done)
3rd Holocron - SILENT (100k wasted)
Zalazarzar
Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:14 am
#3

he is just realy dum and a cry baby about now some players have a chance vs hes 2 AT-AS and 3 black stom troppers
Wepps
Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:16 am
#4

I hate to say this, but zarl0k is clueless. If there was ever a mouth in the SWG forums that needed to be cemented shut....



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insecure
Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:21 am
#5

Reposted from Zarl0k's Monster Thread

just replied to it w/ this take a look tell me what you think:




Ok lets compare the 2, Rifle vs Rocket Launcher
This is with no powerups & no weapon slices
Some of these numbers may be off but from what I have read & seen, all are reasonable averages

Master Rifleman

Apprentice 620
Combat 415,000
Rifle 3,891,000
Total EXP 4,306,620

Which isn't completely right because you need 259,000 More Weapons XP
To fill in the 25,900 Missing Combat XP

So Total EXP: 4,332,520

92 Total Skill Points used

Rifle Accuracy +102
Rifle Speed +90



T21 100-350 dmg w/ 7.0 speed


So lets use a T21 with StrafeShot2
(7.0x2.5)*.1= 1.75 Attack Speed
Base Damage: 100-350
StrafeShot2: 700-2450

with the target having AR1
you will be doing 50% More dmg (25% per AR)

New Damage: 1050-3675

With it being AR0 you'll do a bit more
New Damage: 1225-4287

And this is at an attack speed of 1.75

That's over 3k DPS

Now compared to a Commando using a RL with HW3

Apprentice 620
Carbine 91,000
Combat 70,550
Heavy Weapons 600,000
Pistol 91,000
Rifle 91,000
Unarmed 91,000

Total EXP 1,035,170

124 Total Skill Points used
Yes this is a Commando with only 3 boxes outside Novice Filled.

Heavy Rocket Launcher Accuracy +40
Heavy Rocket Launcher Speed +40

RL Speed:
(8.7)*.6= 5.22 Attack Speed
Base Damage: 1171-3325

We get no specials, so there's no damage modifier for that.

Damage vs AR1
New Damage: 1756-4987

Damage vs AR0
New Damage: 2049-5818

So with our amazing 5.22 attack speed we'll be doing
950 DPS

So you with you're T21 will be doing 3x more damage then me
And you have +102 Accuracy compared to my +40 (+50 if I'm a Master Commando)
On top of that, My Rocket Launcher has charges and costs a fortune.
Sure money's not important, but do you want to buy a new T21 every 30 shots?


Oh and for Master Commando:

Apprentice 1,240
Carbine 91,000
Combat 430,550
Heavy Weapons 3,425,000
Pistol 91,000
Rifle 91,000
Unarmed 91,000

Total EXP 4,220,790

But really thats not correct either

3,789,000 Weapons XP is only 378,900 Combat XP
Which is another 51650 Combat XP We need or an extra 516,500 Weapons XP

Total EXP: 4,737,290

169 Total Skill Points used

So lets see it comes out to this:
169 Skill Points used, 4.7 Million XP Gained
And I get to use a rocket launcher that averages 3900 Damage a Hit
With a pathetic +50 Accuracy (and an attack speed of 1 shot every 5 Seconds)
And I have to replace it every 30 shots.


While you get the following:
92 Skill Points used, 4.3 Million XP Gained
You're T21 averages 2750 Damage a Hit
With +102 To Accuracy (yes thats 2x more then a Master Commando)
And an attack speed of 1.75 (about 3x faster then I can shoot)
And you're gun lasts months.

So, in the end you are doing 1000 less damage then me per shot
but you shoot three times faster and are twice as accuracte with a gun that will last 100 times longer and costs about the same.

I really don't see how you are saying we are overpowered in this aspect
If anything it's just reason for them to make us do more damage.

If anything is wrong here I apologize, compiled this at work where I could only put 1/2 my thoughts into it, if you find some errors, feel free to correct them.
Also it was pointed out that a T21 doing a 4k shot waasn't a big deal so that should re-affirm my numbers being accurate.






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