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Thread: LordS We need more accuracy and speed period.

TechnoHic
Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:54 pm
#1

I have to say, at master, even against someone who doesnt have stacked defensses up to 125 I miss way too much. The guy I fought today had 60 ranged defense, I got off 10 shots and missed em all. You look at that and think about ho wlong that gives someone to kill ya and it shows there is nochance unless you get lucky and find someone with no armor and no buffs to shoot.


The change they did to the FTs DOT would be fine if they would drop the delay or make a big speed increase at master. Really what good is the HAR going to do with no DOT, and less damage than the FT at the same speed. Alll we are getting is a different color of fireworks.



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TechnoHic
Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:38 pm
#2

Trust me, things have a way of having their moments where they like to run a streak like that. I was with a BH and he managed to land 1 shot, I landed none. I've been trying to make the best of my PvP experience but Im getting tired of being the guy that runs around with fire everywhere as just a distraction while others kill em.


I just want to make sure it is known we need to be faster with ALL HWs, disposable and non-disposable, and more accurate. I actually like the HWs a lot if they could just be made easier for a more reasonable price and were accurate enough to hit, no to mention fast enough to be worth while. While I was with a master rifleman, I kept seeing my heavy weapon hit for 5000 damage, Rifleman hit for 1500 damage, 1500 damage, 1500 damage, 1500 damage, 1500 damage, heavy weapon for 5000 damage, in the combat log.


I know TH said they do not intend on things killing in one hit, and I can agree with that, but with the delays we had befor what is now being called a nerf, we had to hope we hit them with our first shot and hopefully killed them, or we would be dead, now that we have this "nerf" it really doesnt matter because we gotta hope for a one-shot-kill just like befor or we're dead cause after the initial hit, we are way outdamaged DPS.


I would suggest even keeping the DOT reduced and going back to our old initial hit but removing the delay for the FT, everything else is as it always has been, we have a lot to be desired. I just hope to see it get changed here soon.


If your wndering why I suddenly am bringing this up while we have had these problems, well, I got my template done and was looking to have fun, only to find I am worhtless beyond being a tank. Oh well. I'll keep waiting but we need to see more than a green FT.





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tacwraith
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:09 pm
#3

pick up a genosian rifle. even with master marksman you'll outdamage and outperform a master commando.




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LordSeckmoth
Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:11 am
#4

This is something I want to show to the Devs. Now 10 shots seems to be an abiration, because I hit around 50% *better if I use aim command* but it's still a bit low. I have many many things I ask about a lot... no worries
RazerWolf
Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:24 am
#5

Yeah, I was fighting a Master Commando and a TKA. I got KD, the Commando still missed 4 FlameSingle2s in a row. That was with just 90 Ranged Def.

Then I got up, Punched the TK in the head and flamed the Commando. Fight over None of us were buffed or had decent armour btw, it was more of an RP duel.



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Tepic_Sand
Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:07 am
#6




tacwrath wrote:


pick up a genosian rifle. even with master marksman you'll outdamage and outperform a master commando.






you cant even use the rifle until you have counter-sniping 2 (rifleman tree). Ive tried using it without and the damage is pathetic



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PyscoJuggalo
Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:41 am
#7

You guys need the speed because Publish 7 is going to bend you over and have it's silly little way with you.


I have noticed with My LLC(A Heavy Weapon)on my BH character I get a large melee defence bonus. This is through the defence bug(Basically when they removed 2.5 melee damage they gave a melee defence bonus, well it was supposed to be a melee penilty). When Publish 7 goes through meleers are going to have a huge advantage for hitting you.





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TechnoHic
Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:59 am
#8

The problem with BH and Commando is they give us our accuracy and speed that resembles the bonuses you get in other classes however, other classes pre-reqs give them accuracy and speed also while all our weapons (aside from LP)and the BHs LLC start from scratch.




tacwraith wrote:
pick up a genosian rifle. even with master marksman you'll outdamage and outperform a master commando.






What about this pistol I hear about? I can easily drop my scout (sell organic materials) and pick up th accuracy line in pistoleer, I just hate the fact that then I wouldnt be using any of my commando skills at all really but if thats what I got to do for now, I like pistoleer. (LP actually sucks compared to my 1.3 speed DX)


Where/how do I get ahold of these?




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Raptor2k1
Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:30 pm
#9

They're looted drops off of Geonosians at the caves.



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Helia
Sat Mar 06, 2004 3:55 pm
#10

At master commando i seem to hit roughly every two seconds which i think is a nice speed for what is a heavy weapon. I dont know the maths for working it all out properly, just going by observation.


What i would settle for is AP2 on the FT or AP3 on the HAR as we have no (?) AP non-consumable weapons rendering us pretty much dead most PVP encounters against those in the know of other professions.


That said, while we are out-damaged by lots of other professions both pve and pvp, i still find it a lot of fun to go bashing stuff with my 2H lvl 3 brawler sword, get into spots of bother and whip out the FT for a quick n accurate FS2 saving my arse in the process.


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Raptor2k1
Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:48 pm
#11

"At master commando i seem to hit roughly every two seconds which i think is a nice speed for what is a heavy weapon. I dont know the maths for working it all out properly, just going by observation."


Just out of curiosity, is this using specials, or just normal fire?



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TechnoHic
Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:06 pm
#12

I used flamecone2 on 3 targets that were right on top of each other and I may as well just used flame single cause it never hit more than the first target. Im beginning to think I need a new FT with better accuracy on it, this is getting annoying.



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StarNick
Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:57 pm
#13

"When Publish 7 goes through meleers are going to have a huge advantage for hitting you."


Exactly why im nearly finished with 0/3/0/4 in TKA...+94 melee def, +90 ranged, melee mit 2 ..coupled with 0/0/4/0 in pistoleer and Master commando..who is also 0/4/0/0 in entertainer! (musician)!




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