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Thread: DWB flame DOTs help

ShadowTheory
Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:39 am
#1

Need a little help plz? Ok so I am vetern of about 30-40 trips to the DWB with killing everything in there at one point or another. My role as a Master Commando is to keep a flame DOT on all SBD's and BD's. Without help from another commando sometimes I can't keep up with the DOTs. Do you guys have any tips on getting the dots spred out at quicker rate?

Here's what I usually do:


click on the first sbd, flamesingle 2, flamesingle 1, then click on the next sbd, flamesingle 2, flamesingle 1, rinse and repeat


By the time I get half way through the droids the flame dot has dropped off the first sbd. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.




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TatooinainWarrior
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:11 am
#2

For one you should be using flameSingle2 and FlameCone2, as a master these are your two most powerful dots and recharge faster than the 1's (e.g flameSingle1), also i tent to use the 3 dot methord... as in flameSingle2, flameCone2, flamesingle1 then move on... if only two or three targets then i stick all 4... the burning power is then double that of your flamesingle2 and flamesingle 1.


Also are you useing a speed sliced flamer or damage slice?? (You should really be on the damage) but if your are on the speed... i noticed that the Dot's burn faster too (that is time between a burn.. not the amount of burns) so you'll still be doing the damage but the dot would just be over faster.


Anyway.. let me know how it does



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FearlessBob
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:11 am
#3

Really, there's not much you can do. Obviously, take another commando...or 6. Try to get a faster flamer so the goddam delay on specials is a little shorter. This means, of course, that your DOT will suffer, vis-a-vis damage.


What I did is to stand back until the main tanks have a good agro going, so that the mobs are nicely clustered. Then, FlameCone2/1 the whole group, then FlameSingle 2/1 individial priority targets, such as SBDs. Once I had a good set of Dots going, I could usually work the LLC for about 30-45 seconds before I had to swap back the to FT. My FT was 3.0/1300ish dam for DOTs. Stats on my LLC escape me....gave it away a while ago.


If you find that your DOTs are dieing faster than you can keep them applied, I'd suggest just keeping a FlameCone2/1 on the group and using FlameSingle 2 on priority targets instead of trying to get both FlameSingle specials to stick.






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ShadowTheory
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:40 am
#4

Thanks for the help. I'm stuck with using singles because in the DWB an cone means extra sbds to play with. I have a 3.4 speed flamer and a high damage flamer that is slow. Should I go with the the Damage FTor Speed FT? Do think a macro would speed things up with maybe peace or clear combatque on the end? It seems like the delay is switching from one droid to the next.



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Skeptic666
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:51 am
#5

Ya Cones is a no no in the dwb they may suck but still can agro SBD into your area and 4 of those is not good! But ya the only thing you can do is eat some snow cake so you dont miss so much and get a speed sliced FT. That is all!


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FearlessBob
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:55 am
#6

Well, re: the Cone attacks....I NEVER FlameConed a mob if it was w/in 20m of a doorway. Your tanks have to know what they are doing and position the mob properly for you. As long as the tanks set the mob up in the right place, I never had a problem with FlameCone...on the other hand, LightningCone will aggro every red dot in the whole damn bunker, no matter where you are.


Macros: No help there, really. The delay in specials is what kills us. /clearCombatQueue and /peace do absolutely nothing. You have to wait for the special timer to time-out. However, a /clear followed by a /peace will eliminate the weapon swap delay, which was handy for me, as I was chaging back and for between the FT and the LLC. The LLC really tears up the BDs and does very well against the SBDs.


As far as which FT to use...I always used my best damage FT.


Make sure your tanks are pulling the mobs away from doorways and intersections before you set-up your flamecones and you should be fine. Like I said, I ran the bunker dozens of times and never had an issue with FlameCone.







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TatooinainWarrior
Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:26 pm
#7

LOL so why does it work for me I get 4 different burns from my 4 different specials

But shhhhh don't tell the devs... I'll get nerfed LOL





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jRaylianholy
Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:41 pm
#8

get a krayt spd flamer youll get all four off




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Stupmster
Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:06 am
#9


you only need to use one flame special, as of 9.3 the DoTs no longer stack



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