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Thread: BOYCOTT COMMANDO

Albiewan
Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:54 pm
#1

I play a Commando/Carbineer/CH/Squad Leader on Ahazi.


Reading through these posts, I can almost sense my brethren's blood pressure rising to dangerous levels. And despite what many non-commandos say, those who play commandos know how painful it is to try to stick and succeed with our profession, made even more painful by SOE's inability to act.


Like many of you, I picked the commando profession based on the in-game description that we were supposed to be very dangerous both up close and far away. But nothing could be further from the truth as many of us can attest. Playing non-stop for weeks after making commando, I became utterly bewildered about my appalling damage output and the seeming uselessness of my profession. (I was not in the beta program, so this was my first time as commando. When I got there, I could not believe how bad it was. I wondered to myself if it was just my character - was I doing something wrong? Could SOE really have missed the mark so badly?) But when the frustration and the accompanying anger finally subsided, I realized the best thing to do is to play the game by their rules.It's their game, it's their rules. I wanted to have fun, and I decided I needed to look elsewhere for it.


Pre-8/13, I saw an army of CHs leading their rancors out the East Mission Terminals in Restuss. It was an awesome sight. Some were openly complaining the game had become too easy. They were talking about stocking their houses with every kind of armor and weapon found in SWG, all for show. They didn't care how much they cost- they already had millions in the bank. Restuss was no longer a newbie city. It was surrounded by level 20- and 30-something creatures, so much so that travelling around it became nearly impossible. I wasn't as jealous of their pets or wealth as much as I was jealous of the FUN they were having. Right then, I decided I should be a CH. One thing great about us commandos is that we are good at persevering (long-suffering?) and grinding out xp, as the enormity of our pre-reqs demonstrate. In no time at all, I made Novice CH and I immediately went out and tamed two babies whose adult forms conned blood red to me. They grew up in a few days, and I was suddenly uber. Without a scratch, I was taking out mobs that could have killed me with a couple of blows to the head. Missions were easy and money was pouring in. But most importantly, I was having fun.


I am still a commando. I have my heavy weapons with me, and when I equip my HAR, I get level 22 missions instead of level 7 missions, meaning more money and more xp, although I do need help from my pets to complete these missions. What is sad is that this is really about the only use I have for that weapon. Although I use my Launcher on occasion, the effects generated by the weapon are so CPU-intensive that my groupmates plead with me to stop using it. Our computers crawl to 2 FPS and with all the smoke and fire, visibility is cut down to zero. Somehave said the effects are so cool that they would be commandos forever. I don't think these people have grouped much. Pretty lights are fine, but I am more interested in staying alive, being an asset to the team, and avoiding corpse runs which are definitely not fun. So I became a novice carbineer. But it sounds like pistoleer is where it's at, so I might go for that instead. That's another great thing about us commandos. We can branch out to virtually whatever combat profession we want.


It appears to me that what can be said about the commando profession has already been said. No amount of angry, abusive, or threatening words like "I will quit if you don't..." seem to have an effect on SOE, although I'm certain that by now, SOE is well aware of our frustration. I hope that someday, in some way, the profession will be fixed because it is broken as it stands today. But for now, I'm going to have fun doing something else. I hope that many of you will consider doing the same. Let them do the hard work to attract us back to the profession. And remember that in the end, we are paying to have fun. If it is no longer fun, stop paying and find the fun somewhere else. After all, this is just a game. Right?

alphawolf100
Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:22 pm
#2

Nice Well thought out Post. All these things have been said again and again. Sadly to Boycott Commando isn't going to do anything for us, it'd be counter productive. Why fix aclass that isn't in use? Aside from that we have promises of fixes on the way, These fixes are on the TC currently and we're all hoping and praying that they go live some time soon.



YYY Asio YYY Shwig
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ShizzleDnizzle
Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:28 pm
#3

welcome to beta 4


~shiz~

Vardion
Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:31 pm
#4

I bet there are over20 times as many ppl that have novice pistoleer than commando. Probably over 10 times novice BH than commandos....barely anyone gets this class as it is. SOE messed up BIG...



-Toryn Bristow
Ivoni
Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:37 pm
#5

What I love most is people who see me and go OOOOH. WOW.

Then I duel them. And lose. To a Dancer.

And they laugh.

Bunnies!



Ivoni the Bunny Slayer
1st Master Commando on Intrepid (retired for jedi hunt)
1st Holocron - Master Ranger (done)
2nd Holocron - Master Squad Leader (done)
3rd Holocron - SILENT (100k wasted)
John_DuMar
Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:44 am
#6

Well said Etherion. I know it's frustrating but if you stick with you will soon enjoy the fruits of your labor.
SupremeLordOfAll
Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:04 am
#7

Im a commando, so i understand peoples complaints, but what i am seeing/hearing is "its not fun unless i can kill anything or anyone that even looks at me in 1 shot". It seems many of the "power gamers" have fallen into the commando ranks because they like the idea of being all powerful. If you want to be a god, play a single-player game. This is a MMORPG, there are thousands of other people who are playing, you are no more special then them. You cannot be the greatest,though many people try. Thats why almost everyone you see is a Pistoleer/CH, Rifleman/CH, Carbineer/CH, etc... which are the power-classes right now. Im not saying that the commando community does not have the right to rant, but its a game here folks. If you are truely THAT miserable and hate the game that much because the class is broke, dont whine and complain, simply find another game. Thats what happened to Asheron's Call 2, ( i was there from the get-go and with SWG, i can attest) Instead of complaining and flameing at every turn, i left, as did a moajority of others. AC2 is on the verge of going under. The developers are swamped right now, and if you say "thats their job" you obviously dont work in a "service" type work environment that has deadlines and such. You also have to realize, that these developers aren't saying "yes i know commando is broke, but lets work on the pistoleers having holsters!" Each profession is assigned a group of developers, for the classes that already work, minimal effort is required to keep it that way, they can afford th fringes. The commando developers are not in a "happy chair" and they are trying. I think what they are doing in the test center is good. AND its a start, not the finish. "Oh no, my commando gun doesnt hit for 9999, this gun sucks!" grow up!! if you hate it that much, switch professions or leave. and i know people are going to say "im paying money, i shouldnt have to switch" well, how many times in life have you been unhappy with something you paid for, its life deal with it. And i'm sure people will try to flame me for this, but, again. Its a game, i dont know them, so i dont really care what you have to say, flame away if it makes you feel better.


Oot

Abazad
Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:31 am
#8

with a name like SupremeLordOfAll, whats to flame?



what is your profession?




Snavek Abazad
SupremeLordOfAll
Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:38 am
#9

read the first line Einstein.

Abazad
Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:42 am
#10

lol.. should be SupremeLordOfDurnis




Snavek Abazad
Ivoni
Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:45 am
#11

Sigh.

So Supreme you're a commando eh?

How's your gaming satisfaction experience?

Killing anything advanced are we? No?

Getting tells of people who want you to come group with them? Who enjoy the framerate loss?

Nobody here wants to be "gods". We simply want to be the most powerful of the combat classes since we are the hardest.

As it stands I am no more powerful in game than I was two months ago as a Master Marksman.

In fact, now that I'm Master Commando, all my commando guns are in the bank.

Don't use em. I use all the guns from the Marksman line.



Ivoni the Bunny Slayer
1st Master Commando on Intrepid (retired for jedi hunt)
1st Holocron - Master Ranger (done)
2nd Holocron - Master Squad Leader (done)
3rd Holocron - SILENT (100k wasted)
Blue6
Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:46 am
#12

I dont feel the need to kill everything in one shot, but I want the ability to fire more than one time every 15 seconds. If I cannot do that then the one shot better do a huge amount of damage to warrant the time I will be hanging in the breeze getting pummeled by whatever I fired at. Otherwise speed up the refresh time. There is no reason our specials should take so long to roll over when skills like last ditch and stopping shot can be fired in such rapid succession. Until massive changes are made, this profession is pointless for anything other than the "wow" factor that goes with the explosions the LP and Flamethrower give. It is easier to take on an AT-ST with a T21 than a "heavy" weapon right now and that just isnt right.



Halcyon Battousai/Master Commando
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
SupremeLordOfAll
Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:07 am
#13

Well to start things off, Im Oot, i put the name supreme in because i hate having to sign up for everything and subscribe things, so i put supremelordofall just for the hell of it.


Yes im a commando, and my gaming satisfation is fine. Im haveing fun with this game, even as a commando. And i agree that the commando class needs A LOT of work, i just dont see the point of complaining on thousands of posts that say the same thing. Do i go out and solo an AT-ST, no, but then i feel that noone should be able to do that.And yes, i get tells all the time to go group with people, but not because of my commando skills, ill give you that. I have fun because i group withlike-minded people who are in the game to have fun. And wedo kill thebig stuff, and i even useheavey weapons.And i agree that commandos "should" be ONE of the toughest combat classes,not necessarily the toughest. but to say

"Nobody here wants to be "gods". We simply want to be the most powerful of the combat classes" is pretty much saying you want to be omnipotent. I know what you mean, we should be on the top end of the combat scale, not getting owned by the Chef and his spoon.


Again, i feel your pain, to be a master commando and still be just as crappy as you were two months ago is not a good thing, it downright sucks. But my question is this, if you had such a horrible time getting there, and were so unhappy playing the game to get to that level, why did you do it? To say you did? Im a commando, i have fun as a commando, and i will have more fun when the developers finally get around to fixing it. And to demand that we get hotfixes everyday to do this just plain silly. ( i know you didnt say this, i read it on multiple other posts) My point is, if everyone is that miserable as a commando, why are they all still commandos?

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