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Thread: Are any of the heavy charged weapons worth using?

DarthFries
Fri Nov 28, 2003 2:45 pm
#1

I'm currently a 4-3-4-3 commando, but haven't really been using the charged heavy weapons at all. Now that I have a few +accuracy mods, I was thinking about trying to use them more. I know they're ridiculously expensive per shot, but I'll ignore that for now. It does hurt the availability as most weaponsmiths won't make them so I haven't seen the stats on that many, but I wonder if any commandos find them helpful in battle. Only worth using against AT-ST's? When do people use them? Which do they find most useful. I used one to help take down an enraged rancor which was kinda fun...but I was just messing around, and knowing that I only hit 1/2 shots and that my flame DOT did a lot more damage, was kinda disappointing. So, any recommendations or advice?


Thanks,
Thargrove

tex77
Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:46 pm
#2

I like the HPBC myself. They seem to miss less than the rocket launcher. Just my two cents.


Morvo


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maddogs
Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:27 pm
#3

HPBC is the only haf desent one



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Belce2
Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:42 pm
#4

Agree, the hpbc is a good one. It has good damage and AP3 and doesn't cost too much, compared to the rocket launcher its my choice.
Pigbrane
Fri Nov 28, 2003 6:03 pm
#5

I use my rockets on ATST's and use all my HPBC on everything else. Acid Stream Launcher is worthless imo, ap rating of 2, and not as much damage as a HPBC, so unless you fight things with a vuln to acid, its worthless. Never used a Heavy lightning cannon so I cannot give you any imput on this one.







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tnarb
Fri Nov 28, 2003 6:13 pm
#6

HBPC for everything except the Rocket Launcher, that is saved for a player AT-ST *grins*. Want more bang for your buck with HPBC in PvP? Create a macro using the Aim command before firing one off =). Works like a charm and works even better if you have a friend knock the target down. Warning you will get much hate /tells and /tells saying you are cheap for using them in PvP. *grins*.
Risro
Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:05 am
#7

Agreed. The HPBC is the only one worth using. RLs miss so often that you'll burn through your stack of 30 in a day. And the other two, being the acid stream launcher and the lightning beam cannon, are just garbage.

Gravik
Sat Nov 29, 2003 9:29 am
#8

Yeah, ask some weaponsmiths if they'll makeHPBCs by the crate (7HPBCs per crate, weird number but that's how they come out).That's why I did while I still sold stuff. I had a commando alt too, gave him about 10 crates of 'em, could floor a krayt in about 50 seconds using those and flame. You'll probably want to use these more often now with the new krayts.



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Ajo79
Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:24 am
#9

I'm Novice Commando with some Weaponsmith skills, so I'm cranking out heavy particle beam cannons like there is no tomorrow


Sure will be cheap, until I've run out of those. I plan to drop Weaponsmith so I can become Master Commando but I'll evaluate those cannons, haven't done that yet, gonna get the first heavy weapon skill box today.




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Pigbrane
Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:07 pm
#10

Yah it is awesome to use it in PVP. BAM incaped, while the rifleman next to you takes the kill (ugh I hate it when rifleman take my faction).







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Raanan
Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:29 pm
#11

I can't honestly say I know much about it having only been a novice commando for half a week but it seems to me, each weapon has its purpose. You obviously aren't going to want to use an acid stream launcher on something like a gsp with high acid resist. Use the /examine command and pick the best weapon for the target. The only reason (aside from not having any skills other than novice) I don't have them all in my inventory, ready to use is; I'm one poor friggencommando... armor is expensive and the item decay is a biotch




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DarthFries
Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:11 pm
#12

Thanks for the feedback guys. From what I'd seen, the HBPC seemed decent, so I'll mess around with it more. Now I just have to find someone on Corbantis who'll make them...and cheap!


I hope with vehicles they'll really emphasize making the rocket launcher anti-vehicular. It really should be a max-range weapon with a huge accuracy bonus to vehicles and penalty to personnel. It's one weapon where I'd actually like to see ammunition used. Have the launcher be one item, and the rockets be another. Maybe a stack of 5 or something. I just think there's a lot of room for improvement and imagination in regards to heavy weapons...and I really hope we se something cool with them sometime.


-Thargrove

tnarb
Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:18 pm
#13

Remember to make a macro using /aim;/ui toolbatSLot##(this is whatever the number of the quickslot is you have drug you HPBC to). For instance mine is on slot23 so it looks like /aim;/ui toolbarSlot23 . At box 4 of heavy weapons support your HPBC accuracy is +80 and aim adds +30 accuracy(I think)to any special or regular attack you do. Because you have to stop and fire a heavy weapon off the /aim is very useful with them.


In fact I have a friend who didn't have alot of Skill Points left and wanted pistoleer because of specials but also wanted pistol specials in Smuggler Dirty Fighting tree. I suggested he take the Dirty Fighting 3(atleast) and make a macro with /aim;/low blow then make another macro with /aim;/panicshot. He did and now regularly drops peeps with these two macros then follows up with /aim;/ui toolbarSlot12(guessing at the slot number he has his HPBC on). In fact i is working well for him and I am following suite heh. And if for some odd reason the HPBC did not incap his target he has enough time to run up and FlameSingle2.


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