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Thread: Old TKM / Commando trying to make a come back
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Vectar
Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:09 pm
#1
I havnt played since before the so called combat "upgrade". From what Ive seen of it, all it did was nerf my two favorite professions to hell. Anyways, Ive got a few questions.
Obviously TKM/ Commando isnt a viable template any more, what are some examples of good commando based templates, and what makes said templates good?
When I use the /respec option, I am unable to get more than 2 complete elite professions, Example: M Commando / M Smuggler / 4403 (I believe?) was a suggested template on one of the other threads I read, and I cannot allocate the points into elite professions passed M Commando / M Smuggler. Question: Is this how professions work when leveling up normally by gaining experience, or is it a limitation to the /respec command?
My 250 max damage VKs are now useless /sigh. I would like to know how my old Lighter has crossed over, and how it rates against top of the line post-CU flame throwers
Stats:
Stats:
Base Speed: 2.75
Modified Speed: 1.8
Damage: 465 - 1015
Modified Speed: 1.8
Damage: 465 - 1015
Element Type: Heat
Element Damage: 126
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Element Damage: 126
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound %: 16.12%
Base DPS: 314.55
Modified DPS: 479.79
Base DPS: 314.55
Modified DPS: 479.79
Edit:
This also came to mind: Before the combat upgrade, the ranged speed tree in combat prowess did not effect flamethrower speed. Have they fixed this? Or are flamethrowers still uneffected?
Thank you for any help given. Please excuse the bitterness in my post, I am just disapointed at how terrible the template I had for a very, very very, long time became post-CU.
Message Edited by Vectar on 09-10-2005 11:12 PM
StarNick
Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:20 pm
#2
Welcome back!
"Question: Is this how professions work when leveling up normally by gaining experience, or is it a limitation to the /respec command?"
The respec was the system put in place to convert old CU templates into new Post-CU templates. As you already noticed, it kinda sucks where the conversion isn't exact (since its not 1-1 skill box, and if were a commando or BH pre-CU you got screwed as we took up lots of skillpoints with the novice boxes...which are worth less than elite boxes). No fear however, if you just restarted your account you have 21 or so days to keep respeccing. This can be done only once every 12 hours.
If you've been a sleeper (inactive, still kept account paid) then that respec is your last one, so use it wisely. And profession leveling is the same as before, the respec is just for CU conversion.
As for your PFT (Plasma Flamethrower...all Pre-CU FT's are now that, with the regular FT's regulated to CL 40), thats a great PFT...but what is the SAC (Special Action Cost)? If its around 122, then I'd suggest you get a new one. Our weapons cap at 100, so getting a krayted or power cell enhanced flamer is really nice. Higher your SAC, the more action that is consumed for special attacks - and our weapons even at 100, will drain that bar fairly fast.
Lastly, yes the FS ranged speed tree now functions properly. And as for the unviableness of a melee-commando template, yep...its big on the hitlist of things we need to correct.
"Question: Is this how professions work when leveling up normally by gaining experience, or is it a limitation to the /respec command?"
The respec was the system put in place to convert old CU templates into new Post-CU templates. As you already noticed, it kinda sucks where the conversion isn't exact (since its not 1-1 skill box, and if were a commando or BH pre-CU you got screwed as we took up lots of skillpoints with the novice boxes...which are worth less than elite boxes). No fear however, if you just restarted your account you have 21 or so days to keep respeccing. This can be done only once every 12 hours.
If you've been a sleeper (inactive, still kept account paid) then that respec is your last one, so use it wisely. And profession leveling is the same as before, the respec is just for CU conversion.
As for your PFT (Plasma Flamethrower...all Pre-CU FT's are now that, with the regular FT's regulated to CL 40), thats a great PFT...but what is the SAC (Special Action Cost)? If its around 122, then I'd suggest you get a new one. Our weapons cap at 100, so getting a krayted or power cell enhanced flamer is really nice. Higher your SAC, the more action that is consumed for special attacks - and our weapons even at 100, will drain that bar fairly fast.
Lastly, yes the FS ranged speed tree now functions properly. And as for the unviableness of a melee-commando template, yep...its big on the hitlist of things we need to correct.
Vectar
Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:14 pm
#3
Thanks again for the info. Im not sure if I follow you though. Would I be able to respec to M Commando / M Smuggler and then level up pistoleer to 4403? Not saying thats the template I have chosen, just as an example. Or are you capped at the equivalent of 2 full elite professions?
StarNick
Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:33 pm
#4
You're capped on the number of skills you have, and what they're worth in respec points - not of # of professions.
Ie, elite skills are double of that of novice skills. So if you only had Master Marksman at the time of respec, you can only respec half of an elite profession.
If you respecced from a TKM-MC template, you should be able to respec to Master Smuggler and follow suit with some grinding for Pistoleer skills.
Ie, elite skills are double of that of novice skills. So if you only had Master Marksman at the time of respec, you can only respec half of an elite profession.
If you respecced from a TKM-MC template, you should be able to respec to Master Smuggler and follow suit with some grinding for Pistoleer skills.
Vectar
Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:36 pm
#5
Aye, thats what I meant, would I be able to grind out the rest of my planned template after I respec. Thanks for clearing that up 
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