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Thread: Lightning Beam cannon Question

balthazar999
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:35 am
#1

I have some loot I have been saving to make a really good commando weapon


enhanced energy power cells

179 dam

-.76 speed

-7 sac

advanced weapon stock

26 - 29 dam

-.74 speed

advanced weapon scope (not sure if it can use these)

+14 acc

-.71 speed


I was wondering what would a lightning beam cannon look like made from these?

would it be posible to get it to sac cap or really close (i know that a crafted stock would make it easier to get sac cap but can it be done with the looted ones or close like 102 - 105)

and what are the caps on lightning beam cannons

(i'm posting this here and not in the weapon smith forums because i know starnick is also a weapon smith and is more likely to have answers from me)


And i have also gathered all the resources and they are all near perfect (i'm a x crafter)
razorwind0
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:49 am
#2

Using that on a LBC would be a waste IMO. You woul get a much better PFT from those.



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balthazar999
Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:03 am
#3

The lightning beam cannon is our next best weapon (not including the proton riffle because it is loot and i have 1) I would also consider making it in to a pft but looking for in because thelbc has better range
Wild__Bill
Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:46 pm
#4






balthazar999 wrote:

I have some loot I have been saving to make a really good commando weapon


enhanced energy power cells

179 dam

-.76 speed

-7 sac

advanced weapon stock

26 - 29 dam

-.74 speed

advanced weapon scope (not sure if it can use these)

+14 acc

-.71 speed


I was wondering what would a lightning beam cannon look like made from these?

would it be posible to get it to sac cap or really close (i know that a crafted stock would make it easier to get sac cap but can it be done with the looted ones or close like 102 - 105)

and what are the caps on lightning beam cannons

(i'm posting this here and not in the weapon smith forums because i know starnick is also a weapon smith and is more likely to have answers from me)


And i have also gathered all the resources and they are all near perfect (i'm a x crafter)






The LBC has a significantly lower damage cap than the PFT. Using those power cells on a LBC would be a waste as you could cap the LBC with mid ranged Krayt tissues, and cap the SAC with a crafted stock.


BTW those loot stocks are all but useless,I wouldn't use them for anything.




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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:29 pm
#5

I thinkLBC is better than PFT for 1 simple reason


It can be pupped





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Tuscanspeed
Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:13 pm
#6

and when AOE works its 100%



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Tuscanspeed
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:18 pm
#7

NO, you CAN NOT damage cap an LBC with mid range tissues, i used 183 damage enhanced power cells and still had to put 9 points into damage before it capped.

final stats on Ole Sparky:

2.43 spd.
348-887 damage
147 elemental
27.50 wound
base 314 damage.

i wish it took scopes, i still got some +60 scopes.



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Rildovec
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:01 am
#8

The LBC and PFT are weapons for two entierly different styles of play. For some (like me) the PFT is practicaly worthless (I only use it when I need to hit a single target since I don't have a proton rifle) while the LBC is a godsend. PUPs, 100% AoE when it works, 40m range (extendable with the range arms), high elemental. Just by alternating ranged and placed shot you can lay out some serious damage with it-signifigantly more then the PFT with both AoEs working.
Hedd
Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:08 am
#9

The power cells from expereince seem a bit.....watered down in the final assembly. I had 3 PFT made. One with 155 max Krayt, one wiuth 180 Max PCs, and one with 165 max PCs. In both of the PC creations the combine came together significantly lower then damage cap while the 155 Krayte accidently blew experimentation points (was before we knew the cap, blew 2 Exp points, one in damage one in SAC) and still yielded a better PFT.


Theory: The potency of Krayt is more so then these new Power cores. Technically by how the numbers read you should damn near tripple cap a PFT with your basic high end PC



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StarNick
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:23 pm
#10

Can't say how accurate that is...

But, the thing I like with the weapon loots that have the sac modifier on em, you then can get your power handelers capped to -16 SAC rather than -8 SAC, if you have power cells that are -8 (if -7, i think then -15...maybe -16, haven't tried it yet). That might be able to save you from using an advanced weapon stock or you can get a much better advanced stock that is less SAC, but a hell lot less speed.

If I didn't use advanced stocks to SAC cap my HW's, I would definately save an exp point or two when im crafting the actual weapon...but then the SAC would be 123! You could walk away with a very good LBC thats excellent in damage, speed, as well as SAC...and once the AoE works again? Heh you shall be god



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Tuscanspeed
Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:42 pm
#11

hmm i made a flamer with 155 tissues, and one with 185 PC's.

before experimentation there was an exactly 30 point damage difference in favor of the pc's.



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Tuscanspeed
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:17 pm
#12

yeah, speed slice IS still good, i too have the +25 speed AA, and the extra speed from a speed slice is till very useful.

Commando's are far from speed capped even with +50 in attachments (+25 heavy, +25 general).

you cant damage slice, so i'd go Critical then.



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cooperly
Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:46 am
#13

Here is my sweet baby :


speed 2.81

damage : 366- 887

ED : 148

ACCU : 1

wound 26.45 %


SAC : 100


So I know that It is damage cap. Any tip on slice damage on this ??


I have + 25 ranged and heavy weapon speed mod, so I don't think speed slice would be appropirate. SO critical or damage? or a mix of those two?


Thanks folks for the advice

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