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Thread: My hopes for the combat rebalance

ShufIrathe
Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:27 pm
#1

Heavy weapons should be heavy.


Have you ever compared the damage done by a BH using the LLC and Lighting 2 to the damage of a "Heavy Lighting Cannon"?It's depressing.

If they don't change the number of charges on the heavy weapon, or don't give us HW specials then I think heavy weapons should do enough raw damage to obliterate anything they hit armor or no. They should be feared by all in PvP.


Grenades should do stuff:

Cyrobans/Glop Grenades/Thermal Detonators, etc. Should all have some sort of state effect. Such as DOT damage for a glop, slow/dizzy for a cryoban, on fire for a thermal, etc. Also hopefully they won't be more dangerous to the person using them than the thing they're being used on.


Flamethrower and HAR into the same tree:

For all of us I'm sure the flamethrower is what makes commando fun. But like most of us I'd rather be more than a one trick pony. Moving the HAR into the flametree has been proposed multiple times, I hope that it is implemented.


E-Web or some sort of long range superwhambidine gun

In the place of the HAR tree, having a long range weapon of doom death and destruction would be nice. Being able to standoff and shoot things rather than having all the TKMs telling you to bend over after they don't die to a flamesingle 2.


Damage mitigation/evasion of some sort

If we are still forced to play in melee range, having something that would help us survive there better would be really nice. Once again I'm tired of having TKMs and melee types asking me who's my daddy.


Cool stuff for the launcher pistol

As has been said many times before, very cool weapon completely ignored in the commando skill progression. You want to do cool stuff with your novice gun? Go get pistoleer. I say Bah!


As has been said many times before we are the most combat oriented class (by virtue of sp and xp) and so we should be feared. I've been jonesing on commando from when I read the description on the box when I bought the game in July 2003. I want to be respected, more than that I want to be feared. I want to see the other professions tremble before me. I want it to be common knowledge that you simply do not mess with a commando. Amen!


Caerid_Loc
Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:42 pm
#2

/agree and Amen! nice list, there. one thing i would like added to grenades is a chance for knockdown. that seems the least we can do to pay some small homage to reality.
JohboBocal
Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:39 pm
#3






ShufIrathe wrote:

Heavy weapons should be heavy.







That's what I'm saying. Plain and simple.





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ShufIrathe
Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:46 pm
#4

Another possibility for grenades would be to have them target specific HAM bars. We can't do that at all now.
nbd9k
Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:52 pm
#5

i would like to see grenades do proportionate damage. in the movies, a thremal detonator can blow up a house. a proton grenade can take a city block. i get 5000 damage if i manage to hit, and thats with the expensive stuff. whats the point?
JohboBocal
Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:53 pm
#6






ShufIrathe wrote:

Another possibility for grenades would be to have them target specific HAM bars. We can't do that at all now.





That would be GREAT!!!








nbd9k wrote:

i would like to see grenades do proportionate damage. in the movies, a thremal detonator can blow up a house. a proton grenade can take a city block. i get 5000 damage if i manage to hit, and thats with the expensive stuff. whats the point?





Very good point. We should actaully be able to blow up shhite, and people seeing it should say oh shhite!!!





Message Edited by JohboBocal on 12-11-2004 04:53 PM




Jobo & Jobi

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galvatronicus
Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:30 pm
#7



Caerid_Loc wrote:
one thing i would like added to grenades is a chance for knockdown. that seems the least we can do to pay some small homage to reality.



/rofl



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Cpl_Fisher
Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:52 pm
#8

? Who is this guy? i don't get it. padding his post count?




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xxx-master-xxx
Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:52 pm
#9

if a grenade is supposed to blow up a house, a cdef pistol is supposed to kill ANY npc in 1 shot. and no one should be able to tank against a lightsaber cuz if it hits you once your sliced in half. get real people, it's not going to happen.
Cpl_Fisher
Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:46 pm
#10






galvatronicus wrote:





Cpl_Fisher wrote:

? Who is this guy? i don't get it. padding his post count?






I am not a forum nazi nor a moderator, keep in mind we are posting about a video game this is not work and you are not responsible for the content people post on this board. I enjoy the commando board, you have neat weapons and neat attacks, and I feel like you guys really have received the short end of the stick more so than any other class. I think its funny when people make allusions to real life, especially when pointing out that grenades do so little damage, and yes its funny that grenades dont even KD someone.





Sorry if I offended ya. Sometimes I'm a little slow (esp when drunk) I need things spelled out to me sometimes.



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CO of DD 214
Member of EC-p8r militia
"Have faith in God, but believe in antimatter"
Bounty Hunters kill for credits, Commando's kill for the hell of it!
galvatronicus
Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:10 am
#11



Cpl_Fisher wrote:

? Who is this guy? i don't get it. padding his post count?




I am not a forum nazi nor a moderator, keep in mind we are posting about a video game this is not work and you are not responsible for the content people post on this board. I enjoy the commando board, you have neat weapons and neat attacks, and I feel like you guys really have received the short end of the stick more so than any other class. I think its funny when people make allusions to real life, especially when pointing out that grenades do so little damage, and yes its funny that grenades dont even KD someone.



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Chagatai Yesukai - Master Bounty Hunter - Master Carbineer - Sprayshot Advocate
Imperial Sergeant specializing in deadly applications of the DXR6.
_______________________________________________
Being a Bounty Hunter Fighting Jedi
nbd9k
Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:31 am
#12

fisher was kidding. your remark just seemed like alot to share with the rest of the community with nothing else to say.


on another note, we all know how unrealistic the weapons are in this game. i would like to see realism in the opposite direction. i dont want stuff to the specs of our reality, i want them to SWG reality.
Azagthoth23
Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:39 am
#13

i can only /agree completely and /sign that list

..but as it seems we will wait just another year .... *sigh*




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