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Thread: skill point reallocation issue...

Jessalyn_Bohicat
Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:46 am
#1

ok. so i am pretty upset, and i feel the need to share it on every single forum i have interest in.

when i finally understood all the potential awesomness of tkm/master brawler, being able to spend all my time completely armor free and dabble aross all the melee professions and picking and choosing skills to complement tk, i got really excited. i could finally live out my dream of lone wolf teräs käsi against the world, with nothing but fists and my wits to aid me. dropping commando seemed acceptable to me, for i would be gaining a very full and satisfying melee repetoire.

current:
master commando, teräs käsi master. medic.
249/250 skill points spent.
combat level: 80

so i log on TC-Ahazi, and get ready to respec my character. i'm fiddling with the thing, trying to get a handle on it. i drop all commando and marksman stuffies, and start picking up master brawler and various lines of fencer, swordsman, and pikeman.

suddenly!! i no longer have enough reallocation points. what the devil?? i think. because, i still have somehwere in the ball park of 60 skill points availble, and i had spent 249 previously, why can i not spend all 249 now?

alas, this is because of that stupid useless master marksman!! the albatross the devs have forced us to carry, is now the bane of our (commandos and bh's alike) existence, come reallocation time.

thats right, those pesky master marksman poitns serve no purpose post cu, and they cannot be traded into the skills i desire. so i get disgruntled about that, cancel, and start over. i figure ok well ill jsut keep commando and tkm, and go bounty hunter like i origianlly intended.

BUT WAIT!! nope, cant do that either!!! for the exact same reason, the marksman skills wont transfer to bh skills.

does anyone else not feel the extreme unfairness of this? this is rediculous!! i mean i suppose i understand the reasoning, perhaps they thought people would jsut get a bunch of easy skills and trade em in for big money at the cu. but hey what about us veterans!! i feel as though im being punished for having skills they forced me to take that i never wanted or used in the first place!! (master marksman).

so i spent a good long time b!tching and moaning to my guildies on ts, before finally deciding to jsut say fook it and do a partial respec as best i can, into my full melee dream template. i do that and accept it.

then, lo and behold.. i am now only a level 65! where once i was an 80! and even when i do manage my full respec, i will STILL not be a level 80. therfor, i am already at an automatic disadvatange before any fighting even starts... pvp OR pve. even tho i have the SAME amount of skill points invested....AND now i cant respec again because my points are even more shuffled than before...(bug?)

so, my current situation is thus: option a) grind out my intended post cu template NOW. (which is only possible if i do the melee one, as cannot do the bh one now because of bloody master makrsman) or option b) wait for the cu, respec best as i can, and then go out and grind after.

i have been done grinding professions for quite some time snow. i am a veteran player, and perhaps it is snobby of me to think i deserve a bit more than the average joe. but i DO think i deserve more. i think i deserve, at the very least, an unrestricted reallocation.









Ordo-Malleus
Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:54 am
#2

try /ui action skillsRespec


worked for me on bloodfin and seemed to have the same issue as you i LOST SP when i traded....and some of our guys came out negative.....yeah negative on thier SPs go figure.... hello im a marksman with -13 sp i cant grind



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MrGouda
Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:32 am
#3

I feel your pain. But you are FAR better off then many professions. I was TKM/MArmorsmith until recently. I couldn't convert ANY of my nerfed armorsmith profession out (or so I'm told). I started dropping TK to get to Master Marksman needed for current commando. Now I'm NOTHING.


0004 AS/4114TK/4010 Commando. I can't kill a flea without buffs, my 90% kinetic and energy composite, and foods.


I'm grinding Commando PRE-CU and wont' be able to convert my master marksman to anything useful after.


Also, I'm a little concerned Commando alone won't be much, compared to just Swordsman or Rifleman. I'll need dual elite combat profesions. I'm hoping this isn't true since I'm not far enough into Commando to do much other than buy cool weapons and nades.


Jessalyn_Bohicat
Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:50 am
#4



MrGouda wrote:
I feel your pain. But you are FAR better off then many professions. I was TKM/MArmorsmith until recently. I couldn't convert ANY of my nerfed armorsmith profession out (or so I'm told). I started dropping TK to get to Master Marksman needed for current commando. Now I'm NOTHING.
0004 AS/4114TK/4010 Commando. I can't kill a flea without buffs, my 90% kinetic and energy composite, and foods.
I'm grinding Commando PRE-CU and wont' be able to convert my master marksman to anything useful after.
Also, I'm a little concerned Commando alone won't be much, compared to just Swordsman or Rifleman. I'll need dual elite combat profesions. I'm hoping this isn't true since I'm not far enough into Commando to do much other than buy cool weapons and nades.





yeah youre gonna be up sh!ts creek without 2 mastered combat profs. sucks so much.

making number levels into this at this point in the games life is jsut so shoddy .. it doesnt integrate well with the profession system, and takes away from the "Freedon" feeling we got with the current profession system.

bleh









Knightcrest
Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:39 pm
#5

I am extremely pissed at this that the Dev's are forcing me to grind in their new system which is in test but from my experience is gonna be one MAJOR pain in the arse to level at higher levels because you will have to kill such high end Mobs to get any reward out of it... or else drop a master I have been proud of for two years to FotM myself to get back to the same template capabilities I have had for longer than half of this Dev team has been on board!



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nerfherder321
Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:03 am
#6






Jessalyn_Bohicat wrote:





MrGouda wrote:

I feel your pain. But you are FAR better off then many professions. I was TKM/MArmorsmith until recently. I couldn't convert ANY of my nerfed armorsmith profession out (or so I'm told). I started dropping TK to get to Master Marksman needed for current commando. Now I'm NOTHING.


0004 AS/4114TK/4010 Commando. I can't kill a flea without buffs, my 90% kinetic and energy composite, and foods.


I'm grinding Commando PRE-CU and wont' be able to convert my master marksman to anything useful after.


Also, I'm a little concerned Commando alone won't be much, compared to just Swordsman or Rifleman. I'll need dual elite combat profesions. I'm hoping this isn't true since I'm not far enough into Commando to do much other than buy cool weapons and nades.









yeah youre gonna be up sh!ts creek without 2 mastered combat profs. sucks so much.

making number levels into this at this point in the games life is jsut so shoddy .. it doesnt integrate well with the profession system, and takes away from the "Freedon" feeling we got with the current profession system.

bleh





dropping Commando now


Picking up Fencer or something

When CU comes...


i'll have the req Commando boxes

2 full elites, put that into Commando and Smugger, and boom dual mastery

i hate the Jedi who have the same... so they complain about loosing 1 SP... sigh.. also...sigh..




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DragonSnack
Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:38 am
#7

I don't know if I got lucky or not.


As it stands right now I won't be respecing.

Not unless I can trade in my marksman boxes for FS boxes.


My current is Master Commando Master Smuggler Master Marksman with someScout thrown in.


The PLAN (at least mine if I stick around) is to drop the Marksman boces as needed togain the SP to use infor the FS boxes.

I plan on 4444 in both combat prowess and enhanced reflexes. The remaining SP will go into Pistoleer 0004

Since I won't be able to trade novice marksman SP forelite Pistoleer SP I do not haveany reason to respec.


Triple Masters are screwed; no ifs ands or butts about that.


Ibelieve that we should be able to spend the freed up SP any way we want; be it in novice or in eliter profs regardless if thepoints are elite or novice.


I personally don't give a womp rat's behind if the devs go to every single player and say you can now take every SP you spent on a combat prof and respend all of those points however you feel like it.



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