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Thread: Commandos: Astonishing new data for the Flame DoT.

DarthTaosin
Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:45 am
#1
Yesterday I did some extensive testing, and here are my results:


I was able to do the following,

- I burned the nightsister with 100% heat resist with flame single 2 for 11k damage. The DoTwas 3.5k per half tick above her head.

- Iburned the same nightsister with flame single 1 and flame cone 1, adding a further 4k per half tick above her head, or 8k per tick.


The total here is 15,000 DoT damage per tick, just in smaller half-ticks.


This is precisely how much we did pre patch.


Hence the difference is: 0%


Things to note:


Flame skills still stack.


The armor hole is still there, so if you knock down the nightsister and hit her with flame sinle 2 for 20k, and pull off the armor hole, you'll get a 20k actual damage hit in on her. The amount that this happens can sometimes make the fight go even faster than pre-patch!


Hence, nothing to worry about right now.


If the Flame DoT stacking is removed, then we've got major problems. But right now, as it is, things are not that bad.


Please, feel free to test these results yourself.


I was using a 1009 damage flamethrower, nothing special.


Tao








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ZeroEscape
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:04 pm
#2
Nothing personal but i think ur data is bogus. Isolo'd a NS elder yesterday, iam a tka and commando master, and i only pulled 30k dmg off her in 5min before she killed me. I had all 4 flames stacked so how ever you did 15k DoT is beyond me.



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DarthTaosin
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:07 pm
#3
I had one flame single 2 DoT for 3.5k per half tick and the two from single 1 and cone 1 for 4k per half tick together.


That's, like I said, 7.5k per half tick, or 15k per tick.


I just re-tested this on a Initiate, btw. I found that if I keep burning her then that's when I get the bigger ticks. I didn't get a 2k+ tick from flame single 2 on her until she was almost dead and I had applied it 2 or 3 times.


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DarthTaosin
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:11 pm
#4
Very interesting,


The next initiate I killed I couldn't get the DoT above 1.5k


This requires more testing.


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Phetro
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:28 pm
#5

Absolutely not. A Master Commando friend and I tested this for 4 hours last night.


1. 100% resistant MOBs take NO damage from the initial shot, as it was pre-patch.


2. MOBs that are not 100% resistant take slightly more damage from the initial shot than before the patch.


3. the DoT is substantially less than before (around 1000 now--it was over 3000 pre-patch).


4. Flamesingle 1 and 2 no longer stack with each other, nor do they stack with either of the Flamecone attacks.





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DarthTaosin
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:29 pm
#6
Well, I am getting them to stack... So I don't know what I'm doing different.


I just got them to stack5 seconds ago. I see three damage ticks and three different numbers.


hrmmmm


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JeffIncredible
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:32 pm
#7
can i trade for your flamethrower? Mine doesn't seem to want to do this.



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DarthTaosin
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:35 pm
#8
Just had ~5k of fast ticks goin on a spellweaver... That's about 10k of pre-patch ticks..


She died pretty fast too.


I am not doing anything different, just flame single 2, wait, flame single 1, wait, flame cone 1, try to knock her down (i'm tka also) and wait more until she's dead...


I can get screenshots, I'll try to take one when there are two ticks hitting her at once.


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maddogs
Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:58 pm
#9

i belive this is a bug iv read a bit about it in athor foums and even talked about it with a csr after this guy sed that they still stack



when the target is kd dots still randomly stack from what i gather and this is not sapos to be and will be changed by tomarow if not to night





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LizardmanBestine
Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:30 pm
#10

welll my flame 1 and flame cone 1 still stack but only tick for 450 or so on a 4000 burn






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Barris
Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:59 pm
#11




maddogs wrote:

i belive this is a bug iv read a bit about it in athor foums and even talked about it with a csr after this guy sed that they still stack



when the target is kd dots still randomly stack from what i gather and this is not sapos to be and will be changed by tomarow if not to night







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