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Thread: _____-The Commando's best friend?

Zito75
Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:46 pm
#1

As much as we've pled...begged...and everything else to the dev's about how awful Commando's are at PvP and that a change is needed, we still are left..."sucky", if you will. I almost laughed at Thunderheart's replies to Garvin's "PvP tests"...How can you not see how bad we are at PvP, a Novice Commando could destroyed probably by a marksman with Pistols IV or something. Not to mention all the other Commando problems, but that is not the point of this thread.


The point is that whether we like it or not, we have to deal with us being awful at PvP. Soooo....we need a "backup" (Hence the title of the thread). I've seen many Master Commandos/Master TKAs, and I guess that is convient considering Commandos already have Unarmed IV.


I'm unfirmiliar with good PvP professions...besides that I know I always get mauled by Rifleman, Pistoleers, Bladesman, Teras Kasi Artists....


So for all those people that have added on or moved to another profession than Commando, what did you pick, and do you like it?






Zito Ipod (Radiant)

Novice Commando

Master Marksman

Brawler 4/0/0/0

Novice Bio-Engineer



Zito Ipod - Radiant
Master Rifleman - Master Combat Medic
Logitition
Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:39 am
#2

One of the best prof's for tactial PvP is a master commando with a rocket launcher and a rifle minor....


If all u want to do is run around and spam specials... Better look into pistoleer TKA...





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maddogs
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:00 am
#3

One of the best prof's for tactial PvP is a master commando with a rocket launcher and a rifle minor....




lol its oviously this guy hardly ever pvps


tell me how often do you hit with a RL in pvp ?


the answer to that is 1 out of 10 shots you ask why becous there are only 3 prfesoins that you can posiply hit BH commando and carbiner why is that its becous thees 3 have the lowst rang defenc and melee defence


all the others have high rang and melee defence and with the RL sucky ac you will always miss vers high rang def


how can you be tatcial when 95% of your attacks miss and on top of that the relod time is a killer



the day you neil a master riflemen/fancer with a RL would be the day the devs finly fixed us wich ovoiusly is farethest from there mind becous there nerfing us ensted of fixing us




as for origenl qustion

best templats for pvping is


master tk/riflemen with carb 0002

works grate runing around with tk as you titel and pll start to run from you you swich to rifel and flury shot then to carb and charg shot them and kill them or many difrent ways of doing it many tatcis are in this set up from target being buffed and waering armor to target burst runing spaming eye shot


or master riflemen/fencer with untachabel stats


or master tk/doc


really all depends on what you like best but theres some nasty templats out there that kill



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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

BlackDragonETM
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:10 am
#4

well i just started on tk and well im loving it power boost is great and once i get med 4 force of will will allow me to get up from incap with a high percent of success but if it does fail ill take serious wound....but at med 4 your able to heal all your wounds except BF...the mitigation line could be of great help for commandos as well...the next line over...the combat exp line would also be of great help for that is the line with all the mods ....so start out against a tk spank them with dizzy then slap them with kd switch to the ft and you have a toasted tk(thats if all goes well)...id probally recon you dont kill him the first incap let him get up and take some more wounds then kill him
FenRirrr
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:15 am
#5

My best friend? Beer


It takes some of the sting out of other players laughing at your corpse during pvpgives you something to do duringthe run back from the cloning center.





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Tekiarl
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:36 am
#6

... In response to Maddogs reply, I simply say: Grow up =P


How old are you? 7, 8 maybe? You can't spell, so here's a suggestion. Go learn yer grammar and figure out how to spell, because you are ridiculous! Reading that attempt at a flame just made me laugh. Oh and by the way, I agree that Commando is a very good Tactical position for PvP. Obviously you've never tried to take out a turret with a **edit**in' scout blaster!


Now, the word TACTICAL refers to its ability to combine itself in a very useful manner. By TACTICAL, I believe he meant taking out turrets with the RL... yeah, you go and punch up that turret...


Secondly, PvP head-on... Commando's rock. Get a doctor behind you, and run up the rear.


People who are engaged in combat are looking at who to switch to, so you just run up and flame them! You get a good shot, you can take someone down in 1-2 hits!


Now, I haven't done the heavy weapons tree yet, but your RL accuracy increases... So, further up you are, the more chance you have of hiiting.


... and by the way... 1 out of 10 shots is not 95% chance to miss =P





Tekiarl

I spent three years in a fat of crisco

So I'm just that more SLICK!

maddogs
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:26 pm
#7

in respons to tekiarl


i thank you for your opinon of me


when you can speek 3-4 difrent langs fluently and can spell them haf decint come and flame me becous then you might be on par with me lol


as for blowing up turits i leav that to a riflemen who can bump out 4X the dam we can


and as for going head on in pvp try that agenst a tk bufed and powerbosted or a pistoler with lowblow and panick shot or a master riflemen on moun gold and fishkin


and as for a master riflemen and a fencer stak rang templat it is 95% miss with a rl now if they get in 32m then you can intimatat them and have about a 45% changs but being there master riflemen i realy dought you will get in 30m and intimat then actuly burn them unles they are extreemly preocupied


but heck what do i know iv only ben playing this game senc day one



ps it really hurts to see a master pistoler using a Lag pistol and out daming you by 3X when your useing a RL tryingto kill a atst




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Hellshot
Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:43 am
#8






Tekiarl wrote:

... In response to Maddogs reply, I simply say: Grow up =P


How old are you? 7, 8 maybe? You can't spell, so here's a suggestion. Go learn yer grammar and figure out how to spell, because you are ridiculous! Reading that attempt at a flame just made me laugh. Oh and by the way, I agree that Commando is a very good Tactical position for PvP. Obviously you've never tried to take out a turret with a **edit**in' scout blaster!


Or he is someone who's first language is not english, but who contributes on a regular basis here.






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maddogs
Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:28 pm
#9

lol kandor

i dont have time to respond to you right now

but belevi me i know more about the profesions then you will proply ever know

and the fact is that commando carbiner and pike men suck the worst



ps iv masterd every singel combat profesion expt bh



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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

maddogs
Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:34 pm
#10

oops i forgot to say inot talking about thees noobs that run around with junk armor and no buffs im talking pvp warlords that all they do is kill and have templats that kill try taking a commando up agenst that even if he him selfs a pvp warlord he will die unless he has other profesions to fall back on

and the fact that we have no acrucy on the move meens miss or stand still and get out of rang messeg 110 ac meens nothing when your moveing





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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Kandor
Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:00 am
#11

Maddogs,



I'm sorry you suck so bad at using a RL. Perhaps you should realize that in any "tactical" pursuit, you gauge your enemies strengths and weaknesses. Do you just run around and shoot everything that moves? Perhaps you should go back to playing Quake, or UT or something.


Part of a tactical approach is knowing your enemies better than they know themselves, what armors they utilize, what weapons they use, the different professions they have mastered, etc. Find their weaknesses and exploit them. I hate to break it to you, but I've found RL's to be VERY useful in the GCW, and if you actually go to Master Commando, you aren't really that bad at using them. I do miss occasionally with them, but more often than not I hit, I know the range they are most effective, and I use them on targets that are more scceptible to their attack. Logi isn't saying fling rockets at everything that moves.


The only problem with the approach that Logi suggests is that it is indeed expensive, but then again we are commando's, we live for the best weapons, teh best armors, and the best buffs...so if you are worried about the cost of launching a couple rockets in a battle, well I don't know what to tell you.


Overall you seem to be a pretty good contributer to these forums, much more so than myself, although I am just now getting more active in this. I do think you everstepped your bounds when labeling a suggestion for a template bad and stating that the person knows nothing about PvP. I don't know your skills, but I know Logi, I know how respected he is on the server, and I'll tell you right now, I'd pit his PvP skills up against just about anyone elses I can think of.


I've tried the little RL thing in some GCW escapades, and I have to say, not only is it a tactical advantage, it's also unexpected by most. Most people see Commando and they gear up for the bull-rush, or get prepared to start kiting, when they see one drop to one knee and fire a rocket up their arse all of a sudden a new element of surpise hits them...and they realize they are up against not just another zerg rush.


Do some research, RL's are with our skill mods some of the most accurate of the depletable Heavy Weapons we have, learn their accuracy bonus ranges, take a little time to practice with thiem and youmight just find that although they might not be your mainstream weapon of choice, in certain situations they can provide for an interesting tactical advantage, and change the mindset of opponents who gear up for yet another zerg flame rush.


Lothe Armandis


Red Gauntlet


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