Commando Archive

Thread: Why are you against dabblers?

Spuzzed
Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:26 pm
#1

First of all im not a commando, I want to be one, but I havent decided whether to be a master or a dabbler. I dont care if this post gets a 1* rating or what kind of flamingI will endure but here is what I have to say.

I read this forum everyday, and very rarely do I see any posts about loving this profession. CH's love their job. BH's love what they do. TKA's also love their professions. Commandos are pretty much the only profession that does constant complaining. I think most of it is because commando is broken and really doesnt have a roll in SWG. I can sympathise with all of you here. I realize that there are a lot of nerfs to the commando and really the only thing that works is the flamethrower. With all of you knowing this how can you blame all the people for just getting flame 4? I mean its not their fault. Who would want to master a profession thats broken?

I personally want to try the master CH and flame 4 combo, flame me if you will but think about this. Ive already mastered a profession and have skill points left over. Why would you be so against me dabbling in commando for flame 4? I mean im mostly doing to be doing PvE. I want to explore the galaxy and do everything there is to do, see everything their is to see. Im going to be solo most of the time which is why I need something strong to use to survive on my own. If I was going to do PvP I would try the TKA/doctor combo.

I guess what im trying to say and used too many words to say is that you guys should realize that because commando is broken you shouldnt be so hard on the people who dabble in it. But for those of you who are master commando, kudos, I have a lot of respect for the people who have the patience to go all the way up to the top.

I hope in the future all your problems are fixed and youre given special commando only missions that will involve taking out imperial/rebel bases. Only more in depth than the faction missions, things that involve strategy, deception, and lots of explosions. Maybe when that happens the number of dabblers will go down A LOT and more people will go to master commando.
AlufNull
Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:58 pm
#2

Mater CH and flame IV is the most devestating pve template in the game currently. Have fun



"Stop thinking with your flame thrower!" - Bobbi Sox (Master Dabbler), Tarquinas
Tira-Misu Master Gunfighter / Master Bio Engineer (Retired)
Riage
Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:58 pm
#3

I personally don't have a problem with Dabblers. I'm a Master Pistoleer/Master Commando and dabble in medic to heal my self.


Alot of people here have this attitude to dabblers that i just don't understand, Its almost like they think the dabblers pissed in their coffee or something. Personally any one that doesn't try a varation of their chosen proffession with out a little of something else is going to be limeting the possiblity's of the play styles in the game.



Dabble away i think its great. And remember like I do always try to piss in their coffee.


Yesterday on datooine I bumped into a Pistoleer dabbler/expert bounty hunter. I was sizing up this NPC jedi, (14k ham no armor on and 80% resist to all) not dark jedi, a light jedi, He was telling me it took him almost 2 hours to kill force sensitive with about 13k ham. I advised him that I'm going to smoke this npc. He wished me good luck. Open with flame cone 2 run off Health shot 1 and 2, few fan shots a stim, stopping shot. 4 mins later 1 dead light jedi, no loot just 2k credits. I say it was a light jedi because of the resists on it where Awsome and it had no armor on. and my second shot was Blocked. not doged not a miss.


Moral of story? Dabbling is good. Bounty hunter in aww of me.



A'ravan Holendre of Chilistra.


PS. No pets where used in above killing of NPC.




May the Nerf be with you.
always.
Ivoni
Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:03 pm
#4

Don't forget to toss in Smuggler's Feign Death in the mix.



Ivoni the Bunny Slayer
1st Master Commando on Intrepid (retired for jedi hunt)
1st Holocron - Master Ranger (done)
2nd Holocron - Master Squad Leader (done)
3rd Holocron - SILENT (100k wasted)
Jackson123
Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:40 pm
#5

Dabbling is fine. We all dabble. And in fact it's actually encouraged. Can't remember where but it's in the book the game came with.



"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
inoch
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:50 am
#6

Not really against dabblers. What i'm really against is everyone who picked up commando and a flamethrower post fix so they could be the Uber D00d in PvP. This is what got our class Nerfed into the ground with the 2.5X damage. Too many people bitching about one class being too powerful. It's been proven if too many people flock to one class and it gets too popular, it will get nerfed.



Inoch,


The master trando commando

Theedage
Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:32 am
#7

I'm against dabblers for a few reasons, first as inoch said, it got the 2.5x melee penalty against us. Secondly as a master commando vs person with flame4 they are just as effective or flame4 + hw support 4 are just as effective, there's no real good reason to be a master commando when someone can dabble in your own profession and be better then you. And lastly many of the dabblers running around with their flame throwers have given commando's a bad name so I constantly get harassed in towns by people calling me a flavor of the month player etc.




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Dizko Roota - Master Commando - Bria - Retired as of 04-07-04

Captain in the Imperial Navy

Bria's Official Jedi Wedding Assassin
Sepulturicus
Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:51 am
#8






Theedage wrote:

I'm against dabblers for a few reasons, first as inoch said, it got the 2.5x melee penalty against us. Secondly as a master commando vs person with flame4 they are just as effective or flame4 + hw support 4 are just as effective, there's no real good reason to be a master commando when someone can dabble in your own profession and be better then you. And lastly many of the dabblers running around with their flame throwers have given commando's a bad name so I constantly get harassed in towns by people calling me a flavor of the month player etc.







Firstly, I'm a Dabbler. The 2.5x melee penalty was NOT brought along because of "dabblers" like me, if you're going to generalize just say "People who play SWG" instead of Dabblers. Your second point on why you are against dabblers is moot as well because you need to learn to focus your hostility correctly. You say it yourself, someone w/ FlameIV is just as effective as you are as a Master. Why is that my fault? It isn't... get angry at something else, not dabblers. Instead say "Make me more powerful as a Master Commando".


The third point that you're saying is again, moot. You're generalizing and claiming that ALL Grenadeer's will give you a "bad name" and a "flavor of the month" player. If you don't like being called "flavor of the month" proove to the person who called you such, better. Show them that you know how to play your class and that you've played it for a while. Don't get mad at "dabblers" because (as we've said at least 300 billions times before) ITS PART OF THE GAME!


People who are mad at "dabblers" should learn to refocus their anger. If you're going to generalize and say "dabbler" change it to "people who play SWG"... we're all "guilty" unless you're saving your Skill points for a rainy day.




SWG is like smoking... every patch gets you that much closer to quitting.
Thughunt Inc. ~ Kauri Server ~ Hunting Thugs since 1993


IdrisTycho
Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:55 am
#9

"Dabble away i think its great. And remember like I do always try to piss in their coffee." --Riage


**edit** dude! I was just taking a sip of coffee as I read that! Talk about making a person gag....

Theedage
Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:10 am
#10

I never had a problem as a master commando until about a week and a half after the patch came in and people were simply going flame4 and then the nerf calls began for people who ONLY went that line ( Flavor of the month anyone? ). How else am I to interpret why I have gotten a bad name as a commando?


I can bet you if a poll was taken about people who went commando and were 0-0-4-0 vs those who were 4-4-4-4 ( master ) you would get about 80% prior about 7% the latter and the remaining 13% having flame4 but also containing other skills.




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Dizko Roota - Master Commando - Bria - Retired as of 04-07-04

Captain in the Imperial Navy

Bria's Official Jedi Wedding Assassin
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