Commando Archive

I went as an over imp to moenia with about 6 members of my guild mercs and skilled crafters. There were two master ch and one master combat medic. The rest were also pretty skilled. To make a long story short, a master commando nailed all of us repeatedly, no contest. I think this is all good and fair, a master should be uber, they should be able to take out peeps that stumble onto their area of combat, but, if we are going to have one class be uber, then the rest of masters should too. As commandos, if you wish to keep your uber status at master, then you must not only acknowledge…but REQUEST that the rest of the combat classes be brought up to par at master level. This means that you must be willing to accept that a master rifleman can one shot you if he gets in a good shot before you can get within 20m and so on for the other classes. Don’t you think this is a better solution?

no... why you ask?

i actually duel some1 yesterday who knew how to play this game, i got the first shot off and hit em with flamesingle2 ( usualy does 1300 dam in pvp) it did 400 against this guy..... i hit em again... 375...

Moral of this story .... Ware arrmor

The other moral:

Use a spell-checker. I mean, eesh. I hate to be a language nazi, but wow. I've got an ESL student who spells better than that.

No, it's still a bad solution - the plain and simple truth is: COMMANDOS ARE NOT "UBER" IN ANY WAY AS FAR AS PVP IS CONCERNED.....

Anyone who can't figure out how to beat a commando deserves exactly what they get - a big hot ball of flame to the face. Commandos have posted numerous times about how completely we suck, we have multiple threads detailing precisely what each class can do to shred a commando in ways we simply cannot defend against, and we have posted numerous suggestions to bring us in-line with the decent PvP classes without making outselves into gods. Yes, Commandos are"uber" inPvE (at least, until they nerf our only good fighting ability, the flamer DoT), but even that only holds true if we have a pet to tank for us - the reload time on our weapons means we cannot hope to truly solo anything thata skilled BH or Pistoleer or Carbineer could, not to mention Teras Kasi and Creature Handlers.

armor doesnt matter when u have a mod where u take 2.5x melee damage, besides there should be some balance among combat classes, all im saying is it would be better if all masters could rock rather than have them nerf commando to bring it down to the lame duck level that everything else is. Its more fun that way. As far as not knowing how to play the game... how would you know?

Respectfully, no.

There's a couple things to consider in your statement and description.

1) As master rifleman you have 158 skill points remaining to choose altnernate professions including master CH, master Pistoleer, Doctor (to provide major buffs), alternate money professions like armorsmith or weaponsmith. Commandos have 81 pts left, so there should be some premium dmg for both commandos and BH's.

2) It sounds like you were all suprised and got flamecone 2'd. That will happen. Personally, I've been suprised by CM's who lay out MUCH more hurt in AoE attacks than we do. Had the situation played out differently your CM would have mind poisoned him or diseased the commando while the other profs, careful to stay outside 16m, would have picked over the scraps. If you let a commando get inside 16m and you are all nicely clumped watching the redcon coming in then you can expect serious dmg and a trip to the clone facility. Rifleman, since you are one, should make sure they start out vs a commando with a very decent range, or should have skills in the shorter range weps like pistol. If we face off at 64m you will win. If we start out at 20 and you stand still to aim for that headshot, i'm going to win.

3) Note that there's a change in the works to make heavy weps considered ranged weps, as it should be. We will no longer get dmg bonuses for rifle users and postures. That will balance things out very nicely I predict.

4)Rifleman have an AP3, uncharged wep that does unhealable dmg. Once defenses and specials are fixed you won't have so many problems with us.

How about trying to thinkbefore you speak cordel?

A master Commando leaves a player with 81 skill points, A master Rifleman has nearly double that, A master pistoleer, carbineer, or rifleman, should not be able to dish out the dmg a commando can do.

Also if you died repeatedly then you just suck. I bet you were all grouped up next to each other and allowed the commando to get within 16 meters.

Commandos can do alot of dmg.....If they get within melee range. I soloed a master commando last week as a master architecht while I was workin on the commando climb myself. All i did was stay at 60 meters and blast away with a pistol. Healing when nescessary.

think before i speal???? i wasnt alone, i was using the range , i was at 50m when he killed me, i dont know if it was a bug or not but there is no way, no way, anyone should have that kind of ability if the rest can counter with something.

Some of you speak of ways to defeat you but give no specifics so how am I supposed to know?

true they*MIGHT* change your attacks to ranged and i think that WILL help, but bottom line ishow long will it tkae? until they change it PVPblows,any PvP situation wherea single person can take out 3 masters and 3 other fellas along with 4 high CL pets including a webmaster is just wrong. Dont care if you say i suck at playing or not, maybe i do maybe i dont... just a game to meand a game should be fun...and that is not fun.

You are either on crack or just can't play PvP very well if ONE Commando took out all of what you described. Drive thru, thank you.

Ouch was my spelling really that bad

on my server we have 314 damage fw's unsliced say u get a 35% (omg that would rock) your now @ 423 add a 33% power up 560 damage PISTOL...

can u imagine eyeshot with that...or fanshot/stoping shot/ last ditch

just something to think about

Dueled a bounty hunter yesterday, shot 1 he knocked me down with something that made me dizzy. I never got a shot off he incapped me and used threaten shot on my pet GSP to run it off while he did so. I never got to fire my flame thrower.....

Dueled a rifleman to see how I stacked up he shot me with a mind bleed, I shot him with a regular shot from flamethrower because we started the fight at 64 meters, I missed, he shot me with a high damage mind shot and I keeled over he won I got to shoot 1 time and never hit him.....

Dueled a pistoleer at 30 meters, I fired a regular shot from flamethrower hitting him for 2200 damage most of which was absorbed by his armor and shield generator. He shot me 3 times for upwards of 400 per shot even after my armor absorbed a lot of his damage I was almost dead, I ran at him and he ran away firing over his shoulder and proceeded to kite me to death.......

Notice a disturbing trend here?

All ya gotta do is stay further than 16 meters from me and I am the one who is toast. If you cant stay that far away then knock me down and I am still toast. Use tactics and I am toast.

4th fight was with rifleman standing at 15 meters to start. I shot flame single 2 and he shot mind Dot. He went down first with one shot for 3400 damage and a dot but i went down shortly afterwards from his mind dot and couldnt even make it to him to db first he got up first and db on me, still lost the fight go figure.

Well toanswer your question I will need more information.

I could speculate that the riflemanwas seasoned. He had his game face on. Meaning he had his decent trusty rifle and he took carefull aim the first shot.He had time to take the second shotI am assuming so naturally you would be laying on your back. This of course is speculating.

Its true you can weed through the post and find many situations where we give examples on how to kill us. I pray that no one answers your questions on how to specificly kill us. MY lord why in the world would you ask us to give you that information.

The truth is knowing how to avoid our damage is the trick. If you see commando weilding a flamethrower stay away far away and move around. Thats how you beat us. Its been said many times over. Why should we tell you how to kill us exactly with specific examples here. I come here to look for ways to kill you not to learn how I can be killed. Believe me I have had many personal lessons on that matter, andI don't need to read it in the community forum thats suppose give me advice on how toavoid being killed by folks like you.

I mean thats like asking me to do your homework. Wait thats exactly like asking me to do your homework. ..

No offenceor anything. but you really ouqht not come here and speak of nerfs..Your only asking to get jumped.

Geez my prayers didn't get answered. Way to go do his homework.