Commando Archive
Thread: Various Commando questions
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Thrakkar
Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:19 am
#1
Now that I've earned my first Skillbox in this tree (flame 1) I'm pretty happy with the choice of my profession. But I got 3 questions:
Just out of curiosity:
> Currently Commandos are out-damaged when it comes
> to DPS by various other professions. This stems mainly
> from the speed of our weapons combined with our accuracy.
Which professions are these??
Second (from the in-depth weapons comparison):
> the 2.5x melee damage penalty for Rifles and Heavy Weapons
When does this apply??? Just heavy weapons or also special heavy weapons???
Thrird and last one:
I'd like to have some melee defenses too. Does it help, if I go for TKA Melee Dmg Migration 2??? Or do I have to have my weapons unequipped to get this to work???
Thanks in Advance!
BloodMonk
Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:54 am
#2
Any other combat prof can have higher DPS then commando, in pvp however it's mainly swordsmen/riflemen on highlevel mobs, all others on mid/low level mobs
Mitigation is a passive ability, so you don't need to equip your VK for this (you do have to go unarmed/with VK to get TK toughness)
The damage penalty was dropped I think...
sly
garvin
Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:38 am
#3
Thrakkar wrote:
Now that I've earned my first Skillbox in this tree (flame 1) I'm pretty happy with the choice of my profession. But I got 3 questions:
Just out of curiosity:
> Currently Commandos are out-damaged when it comes
> to DPS by various other professions. This stems mainly
> from the speed of our weapons combined with our accuracy.
Which professions are these??
Rifleman and TKAspecifically can out damage us over time...Their DPS is higher...it all depends though on the amount of time...I usually go by an 8 second timeframe the amount of time it takes us to get 2 shots off...If you extend that to 10 seconds or more, many other professions jump into out damaging us via DPS....
Second (from the in-depth weapons comparison):
> the 2.5x melee damage penalty for Rifles and Heavy Weapons
When does this apply??? Just heavy weapons or also special heavy weapons???
This was removed, altered and then put back in a different form...In the past, Melee players did 2.5x the damage amount to Ranged opponents. The problem with that is that we are a Ranged profession that fights at Melee range...this pretty much kicked our butts...it was removed...
A new 2.5x penalty was put in, but altered and I'm still not totally clear on how it works...I believe the general jist of it is that a Melee Opponent will hit a ranged opponent more times rather then multiplying the damage total...So instead of hitting us for 2.5x the damage, they "possibly" hit us twice as often (dependent on speed and accuracy)...Someone please correct me if my understanding is wrong...haven't really focused on this because I believe it will change again via the Revamp...
Thrird and last one:
I'd like to have some melee defenses too. Does it help, if I go for TKA Melee Dmg Migration 2??? Or do I have to have my weapons unequipped to get this to work???
Melee Mitigation means that you will be hit for less damage (different damage scales)...
Melee Defense means you will be hit less often...
So the question is, which would you rather have, get hit, but for less damage, or get hit less often...Personally I go for getting hit less often over less damage, although having both doesn't hurt...Some say that Mitigation is weapon specific, but I haven't seen proof to back this up...
Orignally Commandos were slated to get Melee Mitigation instead of Ranged Mitigation...Many of us pushed and successfully got that changed to Ranged Mitigation based on the fact that when being kited, we'd rather take less damage (Accuracy is so high for professions like Rifleman, that Ranged Defense won't be much help...we are going to get hit)...So the key for Commandos, I believe, is having Ranged Mitigation 3 combined with high Melee Defenses...
Please let me know if any of that helps...
ShugFlurry
Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:02 am
#4
IMHO Commandos are one of the best profs, easy to do the corvette, Im 0040 with FD and can solo the Destroy and Assassinate. The next Flurry DWB 6.0 group atm is looking for more Commandos, they are the real damage doers to SBDs, I did around 45% of the damage to a SBD compared to 2 TKMs, 1 Mswords 1 M Pike. This could also be due to my 2.1 speed flamer
, but seriously Commandos are great.
Thrakkar
Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:51 am
#5
Hehe, good to know 
I'm currently at 0010 (but despite many guides, I refuse to train with a launcher gun, in fact I read the guides after I got 0010 with my flamethrower, ok, I was a bit unaccurate, and I am still, but who cares, its fun...) and I already deal out tons of damage (only a 3.3 sec flamer here), I really like this profession
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@garvin& bloodmonk
Thnx for the input. That surely helped me.
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