Commando Archive

'nuff said.....You coulduse these weapons as shields,thigns like the flamethrower, you could use IT as a MELEE weapon and a shiled, why would you get hutMORE with a big gun?

Why,you must be kidding. After all,firearms have only been widely used in our world by the military for the last 400 years or so and as we all know, not once during that time did anyone ever take into account 'Gee,what happens if someone gets close enough to physically strike me?' and develop and teach the common soldier specific tactics designed specifically to handle that situation instead of standing there getting your butt kicked(aside from the use of a sidearm or saber)....nope,not once....oh wait a minute, YES THEY DID!

Thats right, proper procedure for a highly trained commando when attacked with a melee attack is to put down his weapon, take off his armor, strip to his underwear, then lean backwards and protrude his genital area as much as possible so the meleer can kick him right in the nuts for 2.5x damage.

This is how you are trained, so shall it be done, or so says the combat developer...

LOL,good one Nowakai. -Wonders if in the old days people cried and moanedfor the Crossbowmanto be nerfed for being toopowerfu or if there were nerf cries directed at the Pikeman by armored Knights- For Pete's Sake,any sort of even casual instruction you can get from a book on the use pre-firearm weapons (i. e. swords, staves, martial arts weapons) includes a section on 'What to do if the bare-handed guy manages to grab your weapon'......those techniques were obviously invented in the old 'pre-guns' days to handle a similar situation....with the advent of firearms, why wouldn't that same line of thinking progress to encompass the new most widely used weapon, the firearm? Heck, in Japan there was even a martial art developed based soley on the use of the musket that included such techniques in its syllabus (The name of it escapes me atm but I can go look it up if anyone really wants to know)

And that was my only 5 star in a sea of 1 star posts, and I dont even flame anyone,....thanks for the stars

If you use the highest quality metals you can find, 900+ saying 1000 would be perfect, I think a acid rifle or flame thrower would hurt pretty bad to get smacked in the face with, more so then a pistol "melee defense" that is, but it might scratch the paint so we better not do that, we'll just let what ever who ever rip our guts out of us.....

You know what I want? A "Melee Range Slugger" tree.A whole line of skills devoted to getting a good grip on the end of that heavy weapon, winding up like Mark Maguire, and taking the head right off of anyone within melee range.Combine that with a 16m routissimat flamesingle2 and we got ourselves a balanced class.

How about a flamethrower with a bayonet attached?

Then again, my HAR would probably make a better club than it does a ranged weapon...

Problem with the modern warfare analogy is that modern warfare has also eliminated the need for a soldier who specializes in melee combat.

Now, to be fair, so has it gone in the SWU. With the exception of the lightsaber (which has a built-in response to ranged attacks), there are no melee weapons used in SWU armies except possibly the gungan army. And, well, we all saw how well the gungans fared against battle droids, to say nothing of stormtroopers...

However, despite this, the developers of SWG have made the game with a number of melee professions available. Even though that logic dictates modern ranged weaponry is almost strictly better than any melee weapon, you can't follow that logic when designing a game such as this where balance is key. So the melee fighters have to be competitive with the ranged fighters. This concept I believe in.

But, thing is, the crackhead idea of slapping our heavy weapons with a 2.5x melee damage modifier isn't a balancing solution. A solution would be to simply improve the melee classes, which I hear has happened in the case of the TKA.

Making us inexplicably more vulnerable isn't the answer.

True,I have long said that what has gone on here is actually a ruse: Instead of fixing the obvious (Armor holes, resists not working right with respect to DoT, non-working Commando weapons, non-working melee classes(they really ought to be ashamed of that one), etc.), they have neatly sidestepped the issue by slapping a unilateral modifer on us, then patting themselves on the back for a job well done. The fact,while this might make the anti-commando crowd happy, it doesnt change the fact there is still a lot of non-working problems, it just buys them a little more time to come with another excuse. Its alot like the doctor treating a pneumonia patient by giving him Robitussin; sure the symptoms might be a little lessened and the patient a little happier, but the illness (which caused the symptoms in the first place) is still alive and well...nothing has really been done to cure it.

welcome to what rifleman have been going through since the start.

Dont get me wrong Zam, I think a damage modifer based on what weapon is selected is asinine for ANY profession, not just Commando, they really need to rethink things because the current method is doing nothing but laying bare the flaws in their combat system.

Ugh. Really. It's time to stop with the rifleman comparison.

Yes, the riflemen have had the same damage mod since the beginning. The difference is that a rifle's optimal range is a LOT farther away than that of a flamethrower, which has the same optimal range as a melee weapon. Not to mention the fact that the rifleman also has skills which keep targets from closing in, such as concealshot.

We've been over this time and again. There is no comparison between the rifleman's damage mod and the commando's.