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Thread: Cammando / Master pistoleer??? Weak / good???
Aside from that the addition of the genosian sonic blaster (if you can somehow get a hold of one) can make pistoleer pretty powerful. The biggest drawback is that pistoleer can only target health as a pool specific hit, but with a flame dot on them, you're basically targetting health anyway. I too have been with this game since launch..and before that..since its announcement (4 years now almost..) and been a commando since the first/second week thereafter (officially chose it 2 days before launch day)
I agree with ya all the way log
and for that template..i suggest drop meditation..it may be good..but personally..that Melee mitigation is better
Commando is broken at the moment, If u are into PvP there is no reason to keep it. Unless u are a diehard that loves a losing battle, then the commando would be for u.
I was a master commando 3 weeks ago. It was either be a commando and not PvP or give it up for one of the fixed professions.
Flame Throwers are useless in pvp these days to anything buffed and wearing at least 70% compo. All it is good for is wounds. The HAR is a waste of time. No matter how many pistoleer skill u get, the LP is still going to get laughs from yer targets.. I mean seriously, the AP0 lag pistol is not even a contender unless it is an unarmored novice marksman that has never heard of armor that u are going against. The best the commando has is the Rocket launcher.. u can do some damage to targets with the AP3, but u better hope the target has about 40 in their defences and are 50m out.. If he is buffed u will get only 1 shot and then u will be taking a dirt nap. Grenades are a joke.. go ahead and throw them, it will save your target time and effort if u can drain your own ham.
All I do is PvP.. I had to give up the commando because it is a WASTE of points. I used to be a M.Commando/Rifle 4004/ Tka 4003... They day I decided to drop commando is when i noticed that the best weapon I had in battle started turning out to be the rifle... I am not kidding.. go look up the stats.. at 4004 rifle u have more accuaracy, more speed, weapons that do AP1-3.. attacks that target a specific pool, status effects... It beats out the commando hands down, and that is not even funny. They even get more defence.
I loved commando, and I love PvP. it came down to this tho..I could keep the commando at its 167 pts and wait the 4 months or more for it to get fixed, in the meantime having to give up my other love which was pvp cause as it stands the commando is just not viable in the GCW anymore. I chose to retool. waiting that long would have caused me to quit out of boredom...
Lemme tell u this,
THE OTHER HALF LIVES LIFE A HECK OF ALOT EASIER.
I got 2 profs and half of a third for all those points.. It was a shock to see prof's that all of the specials work. I used to be afraid of the KD... We only had +5 to resist it... Now I carry about +70 resists to KD, +55 to dizzy, +80 to posture down... sheesh, I even have both defences capped at the 125 def cap. I use to stress alot with commando. Used to have to get every little trick I could to make it work and then I was fighting with a prof that only 20% worked. My deaths and problems in pvp stemmed from that number. Skill tapes, the best armors, the best KT weapons, the best rockets money could buy at bulk orders..
Now... I can afford cheaper armor cause I have an adequate defence... I do not sweat dizzy KD's, I got both melee and ranged mit.. I can do damage with my weapons and because I can I do not need as strong of weapons. I do not have stress, I am actually having fun again. I do not have to work so hard at losing so easily.
From my days as a commando the only good thing I gained was expierience.. from working with a broken Prof for so long, I learned alot of tactics and tricks that I use with the new temp.. it makes me unbelieveably tough.. I guess I have had the skill it took to become more of a key player in the war I just never had the tools. Now I do.
I know u guys want to see commando become what it SHOULD be.. the question is, What do u plan to give up for it? I do not want to play the template I have now, it is basically a FOTM, but I am in this game for the pvp.. I know some do not dig it, well maybe the commando is still good for Pve, I do not know. I am not much into killing things that are driven by AI. Commando is not an option for pvp.
Alot are looking to compliment commando with other WORKING prof's.. U may come to the conclusion that I did. When u fight pay attention to how much u use the working prof as compared to using the comando.. IE the TKA add on.. sure u want to hit the guy with that torch for the multiplier as he is on his back.. just do not expect it to phase him. I actually fought a commando last night unbuffed.. I guess he hit me with his FT.. I seen it go off like 5 times or more.. he had 2 buds with him....he was my last target.. I took the two guys that were running defence and took him out as easy as I used to get taken. I did not even notice the flame had hit untill I looked at my Health bar and noticed the wounds and the last tick. What was that tick for?? 45pts... nothing he coulda done short of whipping out a weapon to his secondary master..
I scrolled back through the combat spam by the way.. the guy hit me for a nice hit of 1131.. must of had a nice zippo, did him no good on my 75% heat resist compo, or the 60% ranged mit I have... a damn 45 pt tick????? no wonder I did not notice it.. He is lucky I did not have my good suit on... no way he could have gotten a tick on my 85% stuff..
I will be back to commando one day, but not untill they fix it.
Untill then I will have to keep prof's that work, there are really only 5 that WORK and 2 that are useable Fencer, swordsman, TKA, Rifleman, CM (I said worked not that it was fair) and then Carbineer and Pistoleer..
If u are new to this game, save yerself alot of trouble and avoid commando for the time being, it will only bring u grief... Pick 2-3 of the fixed ones and u will thank yerself for all the time u saved each time u take out the hard heads that do not see the light... Look at it this way, in a high profile PvP battle where I know that the heavy hitters are going to come out of the wood work, I would rather have a 'pure' smuggler than a commando these days, I am serious and it is very sad how serious it is.. at least with the smuggler I know that his ranged KD will get them on their backs so my tanks can move in or stop the others side spamming with a well placed delay ... the only reason I would need a commando is for a base take down... AND NOT TO TAKE TURRETS EITHER, cause we all know a swordsman with a hammer can do it in like 30 secs as opposed to a pistoleer/commandos 10-20 mins.. I would needthe commando ONLYfor a terminal on the inside..
I played a commando for over 5 months,,, this is not to brag, all is just my opinion. Maybe a dev will see this and relise how bad it is if u are a commando and PLAY THIS GAME. -Prolly not tho. So I stopped holding my breath...
The game is broken. It only half works. We have 2 choices.. Quit or make due with what they have left us that works, and commando is not on that list. I have chosen to stay after looking at the games that are due out.. lineage2, WoW.. they are not promising in the realm of Player driven Economy OR combat platforms, they are actually SoT games (Stand On Target) where that elven archer will be right on top of that ogre with the battle axe because their systems do not calculate ranges... I have found what it is like to run and gun, and there is no going back to everquest for me.
Uben Haum'Qui
Your template does not look too bad, but you can change it up a bit and make it better. With doctor buffs, food, spice and power boost, there is really no need to have medic. Save those pts and try...
Commando 0/4/0/0
Pistoleer Master
Smuggler 0/0/4/0
TKA 4/0/0/4
In pvp you are going to want the KD/Delay combo from smuggler. Once you land that, it is time to pull out the big consumables for heavy damage. Much better then the FT since you can use the KD and the big damage from much greater range. The LP also works great here, although it is not AP1 and does not deliver the damage, that is not why you are using it. It still has the best ranged modes in the game and gives you the best chance to land your specials.
You could alsogo 2/3/0/0 in commando. This only gives you an extra +5 to KD defense but, you dont need the forth box of the heavy weapons line if you just stick to the rocket launcher.
U are going to take alot of points for that FT that does not work. TKA's have left the realm of the FOTM these days for one reason.. most are now in the new stack.. STATUS defence.. KD/Dizzies only work on those without status defences these days.. most of the heavy hitters are about +70 to KD. +50 to dizzy and holding alot of Combat Equilibrium that allows a quick posture change recovery.
I use to fear the KD/Dizzy, but since I dropped Commando I do not anymore. I have a 10% (capped for all) of getting knocked down.. with a +70 to combat equilibrium I recover faster than they can spam.. The FT will NOT do any damage to an armored and Buffed opponent. It will ONLY wound. I know this first hand from both sides.. U will find those without buffs, but they will only take a tick of about 30-80pts from the FT.. and that is if the FT is krayt tissued, dmg sliced to about 1400 or more on the top end. I have one. It became useless. Most of the guys that u will battle will keep alot of defence, and carry a rifle. The TKA's u will not have to worry about as much, while u are fish flopping they will be hard pressed to get any damage on u if u are armored and buffed. It is the rifle, the stun baton, or the Hammer u will come to fear in that KD dizzied state.
With that 110 acc at master u will find that when going against anything with a range def of +80 or higher, u will miss about 40% of the time, and it will leave u open for 6-8 secs each time... with box 4 only, u will miss about 60%.. to get any more acc u will have to stop, stand still, and use /aim to hit them.
None of that Master marksman will help u aside from the chargeshot1 which will cast u so much ham and dmg. to your weapon that it will not be used much. U will find that u use your other profession more.. and u will not be able to compete against the same prof unless u have the master in it.
PvE is diff.. that is only for Pvp ( above statements) -If u only PvE then u will be fine... just don't expect to win much in pvp. Not trying to bring u down, bro.. Just trying to help u avoid the mistake the rest of us made.. retooling is a hassle and if u are a casual gamer u will be hurting when it comes to the day u get to the endgame and want to pvp.. unless, U plan on this template taking u 4 months to complete.. then u may get lucky and they may have addressed the problems with commando.
Uben Haum'Qui