Commando Archive
Thread: Proposal: Change name of the Commando profession?
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RazerWolf
Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:09 am
#1
Now this may sound daft, but hear me out.
com·man·do
n. pl. com·man·dos or com·man·does
1.
1. A small fighting force specially trained for making quick destructive raids against enemy-held areas.
2. A member of such a force.
What does that make you think of? Something like a Royal Marine Commando or a Navy Seal, correct? Something like in the game "Commandos", or in Rainbow 6?
Look at the Commando profession in SWG? Is it anything like that? No, is it heck.
Take a look at the Soldier and Pyro classes on here: http://www.planethalflife.com/tfc/guide/classes.shtm
Anything sound familiar?
I get the feeling that rather than looking at Navy Seals or Royal Marines or whatever when they thought of Commandos, the devs were watching Arnie's gun fight scenes in the movie Commando. What we have here as a profession is something that has the wrong name for what it does.
So what is this class? Well, it has a variety of Heavy Disposable and Heavy Assault weapons, and hopefully soon a Heavy Machinegun style Blaster weapon. Why not call the class the HW (Heavy Weapon) Soldier, or something similar?
Why do I think that Commando needs a name change? Well, I see a lot of people that realise the profession is broken, and make suggestions to fix it which would result in a profession with a totally different character. One such quote from the "Idea to the devs..." thread:
kenrw24: "I thought of what I feel should be in the commando skill trees after reading up on the Green Berets and Navy Seals - making sure I had a decent idea what real life commandos do."
kenrw24 then went on to make some very good suggestions which would make a very nice profession on its own. But it's not this class.
Basically what I'm saying is that the Commando profession is a mis-labelled package, which causes some confusion. What do you expect from a Rifleman? Expert use of Rifles? Check. Swordsman? Fights that look like they're out of Highlander? Check. Commando? Elite covert-ops tactical strike team? Nope.
Please reply with your opinions, I want to see what people think.
com·man·do
n. pl. com·man·dos or com·man·does
1.
1. A small fighting force specially trained for making quick destructive raids against enemy-held areas.
2. A member of such a force.
What does that make you think of? Something like a Royal Marine Commando or a Navy Seal, correct? Something like in the game "Commandos", or in Rainbow 6?
Look at the Commando profession in SWG? Is it anything like that? No, is it heck.
Take a look at the Soldier and Pyro classes on here: http://www.planethalflife.com/tfc/guide/classes.shtm
Anything sound familiar?
I get the feeling that rather than looking at Navy Seals or Royal Marines or whatever when they thought of Commandos, the devs were watching Arnie's gun fight scenes in the movie Commando. What we have here as a profession is something that has the wrong name for what it does.
So what is this class? Well, it has a variety of Heavy Disposable and Heavy Assault weapons, and hopefully soon a Heavy Machinegun style Blaster weapon. Why not call the class the HW (Heavy Weapon) Soldier, or something similar?
Why do I think that Commando needs a name change? Well, I see a lot of people that realise the profession is broken, and make suggestions to fix it which would result in a profession with a totally different character. One such quote from the "Idea to the devs..." thread:
kenrw24: "I thought of what I feel should be in the commando skill trees after reading up on the Green Berets and Navy Seals - making sure I had a decent idea what real life commandos do."
kenrw24 then went on to make some very good suggestions which would make a very nice profession on its own. But it's not this class.
Basically what I'm saying is that the Commando profession is a mis-labelled package, which causes some confusion. What do you expect from a Rifleman? Expert use of Rifles? Check. Swordsman? Fights that look like they're out of Highlander? Check. Commando? Elite covert-ops tactical strike team? Nope.
Please reply with your opinions, I want to see what people think.
Skeptic666
Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:23 am
#2
Ya I think the best name forus would be as followed:
1. Dirt Nap Boys.
2. One trick Poney's
3.Pyro's
4.Worthless
Just a few ideas its not productive but its ideas.
All that being said. I would think so too on the name change. Unless they are doing something to make us more of a commando
other wise some thing like Demolitionist. Or something cuz we are sapose to have the big bangs thats about it right now.
Mikail_Ledeuar
Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:20 pm
#3
Sardukar or Fedaykin comes to mind, but that's the wrong universe 
MarKthur
Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:41 pm
#4
Mikail_Ledeuar wrote:Sardukar or Fedaykin comes to mind, but that's the wrong universe
LOL There is at least one Muad'Dib on Tarquinas.
Mavarus
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:36 pm
#5
What about having a faction mission that u can earn a title for whatever side your on. For example, if your a imperial u get the storm trooper title and if your rebel you get the RSF title or something. A title that actually distinguishes your duty in your chosen faction.
Kongstad19
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:42 pm
#6
MarKthur wrote:
I say keep the name and fix the profession...
...like that will ever happen.
Ssscchchchhh They are just gonna change the name and say they have fixed it, then close the forum with a MAG Lock Seal...
And all smugglers now how that goes :rolleyes:
MarKthur
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:50 pm
#7
Kongstad19 wrote:
MarKthur wrote:
I say keep the name and fix the profession...
...like that will ever happen.Ssscchchchhh They are just gonna change the name and say they have fixed it, then close the forum with a MAG Lock Seal...
And all smugglers now how that goes :rolleyes:
LOL, as a retired Smuggler i have to agree.
Raptor2k1
Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:19 pm
#8
Personally, I'd rather them make the profession live up to it's name, rather than match the name to the profession.
RazerWolf
Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:06 pm
#9
I dunno. I don't really want to do all the stealthy covert-ops knife-in-the-back kinda stuff, I wanna make lots of big bangs and loud noises.
thepunisher286
Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:18 pm
#10
Hey guys...they already fixed our titles.... *think no evil*
Dont speak of these things, devs somehow spot out posts with suggestions that are just for the fun of it and somehow manage to put it in the next publish instead of anything over the top 5.
But "Worthless" sounds good. But that should be the master title. The novice title should be "Launcher Pistol access"
MarKthur
Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:26 am
#11
I say keep the name and fix the profession...
...like that will ever happen.
...like that will ever happen.
TheDarkmoons
Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:51 am
#12
Commandos should be like a secondary squad leader, with some of the tree dedicated to commando-only weaponry.
Commandos as they are should be converted into 'Heavy Weapon Specialists'
This is all IMHO of course 
TheBlacksword
Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:54 am
#13
I agree that the name doesn't fit. Perhaps... um.. I don't know.
Soldier seems to bland. I'm a Master Soldier woot!
Heavy Weapons Specialist... better, but too long I think. I'm a Master Heavy Weapons Specialist... redundant.
Pyromaniac... well, we do have other weapons, you know. Maybe big boom maniac...
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