Commando Archive

No, we'd prolly get items 1-3 before we got item 4......

Yes I'm being pessimistic and I'm pissed off.....why shouldn't I be?

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Palad wrote:

We, commandos, clearly deserve compensation for taking it in the brown eye after the CU. Any doubts about what we deserve should be tossed away. 3 weeks later past the big publish that was susposed to FIX every profession and we are still worthless and broke! Here are things I DEMAND as compensation, the lube that I should have gotten before the public screwing called the CU..

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you never visited the smuggler's forums, have you?

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MrBulwark wrote:

you never visited the smuggler's forums, have you?

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LOL, how true!

the big shaft!

It's disturbing just how many professions feel this way. Across 3 toons I have professions in all the major areas (except jedi - *spit*).

And every single one of them has a forum filled with anger and disappointment over how badly they're broken or have got the shaft. Some examples:

• Droid Engineer - although we got some loving in publish 7 or whenever, it's been slowly whittled away so that the profession is now in worse shape than it was before that.


• Commando - 'nuff said


• Squad Leader - I have 3 useful specials as MSL. For some reason they just removed one of the useless ones entirely from use in PvP - huh?


• Musician - meh, what's the point now?


• Combat Medic - They gave us rez skills. Then made us close to useless at actually healing in combat. Huh?

Even the jedi think they're broken, and to be fair it did get a lot harder for them. The padawans who aren't able to listen or use their brains are suffering pretty badly from the increased difficulty of jedi grinding.

My point is just that everyone seems to have been shafted - and there are no real fixes in sight. Take a look in the other forums - it's just scary. Believe it or not commando isn't the worst off, although it's a close-run thing in some ways.

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Palad wrote:

Whats so broken about droid engeneer? They can make droids, the droids arnt so hot and have little funtion to combat, but they still work.

Armor modules - broken, combat modules - level 18 max, harvest modules - get a penalty in group, barker modules - pointless, auto-repair - doesn't...shall I go on?

Whats so broken about smuggler? This I honestly dont see one bit, are they mad because they dont have smuggler content? boo hoo, welcome to the wonderful world of swg. NONE of us have content aside from jedi and bounty hunters.

Slicing - totally screwed up, Last Ditch - on it's last leg according to the Jedi boards, Spices - genericized in the CU and soon will not stack, XP - totally reliant on pistol usage except spice crafting which requires combat XP (huh?)...try visiting the smuggler boards to see the rest.

Whats so broken about entertainer? You cant make billions of credits? Boo hoo, entertain and be original, then you make the money. tooting a horn in a cantina all day isnt entertaining.

Nothing publish 17 can't fix (i.e. /covercharge )... and I've never known abillionaire entertainer anyway

Whats so broken about commando? Well the fact that NOTHING WE HAVE WORKS! That is what makes something broken, not how uncool your profession is. We simply DO NOT FUNCTION WHAT SO EVER. And this is why commandos deserve compensation. Other professions are weak, lame, or uninteresting, but we are truely broken.

Isn't it merely the weapons that are broken? ...and of course the fact that there are zero specials - which really sides with "pointless" vs "broken" - but if there were specials, I'm certain they'd be broken as well.

And dont a single jedi say a d@mn thing about being "broken". You arnt, dont even bother comming here looking for a sholder to cry on, cause if my plasma thrower worked I would burn your face of for being so stupid.

...I'm with you on this one

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My point? Many profs are screwed up presently - some worse than others. Don't asume that othercries of "nerf/broken"are invalid - each profession considers their problems to be the worst becaus it affects them directly. Sadly, Commando seems to only be a path to fancy toys at the moment, and unfortunatly those fancy toys are not very fancy at all under the present system. Everybody wants a fix, but commando needs a lot of love to be viable. Hopefully we get it someday.

Poing being, our weapons are our specials. Currently AoE is broken, making our weapons pointless...so it does both.

Because of AoE...they're pointless in dungeons and group PvE. We also now face the bug where splash damage goes through walls.

Because of AoE...since its broken, our weapons do not power up other specials (now its the opposite, we do pretty well in PvP as a result)...and a commando isn't a "5 offense" rating, nor even comparable to a CL 54 elite profession.

Because of AoE...once fully working, we'll become a one trick pony again as ALL our weapons will do the same exact function - but at different damage levels. Imagine you're a pistoleer with only fanshot, and that'll be what a commando will be.

Our grenades, do the same damage for some strange reason as those of pre-CU looted grenades (like 80-250 damage...and not only that, individual timers are going for minutes at times, making commandos unable to do ANYTHING in that timeframe)

Weapons broken. Weapons pointless. Role not met. The only thing we're good for is burning up SP as well as giving defenses/generic mods. But you can get that and much more from another profession, and save some extra SP to boot.

Now...every profession is going through some woes, but we've been severely handicapped due to the CU. DE's, Ents, Jedi, Ranger (especially...I consider the Rangers/Commandos to be in the same boat currently...as we both always considered our profession a lifestyle), everyone have problems. DE's and Architects always have had problems in the crafter community. But, after being directly promised (yes...numerous times) that the CU would fundamentally make commando better, and that it would affect commando the most...I think we have a major point to get some much needed attention.

We're not the only profession alone on this, but we're one of the few professions that need some major attention on multiple facets of our profession, while as other professions have a few concerns here and there.

ie Smuggler with weird XP costs, and slicing -- this is only a part of smuggler....ie Ranger, which has probably been the most gimped profession out there, needs its ENTIRE profession revamped...we need some fixes and minor revamps, but over a multitide of systems that make up our profession

ie DE needs fixed what the CU broke, they also need viable products as well as droid decay (makes up a BIG chunk of the profession, and should recieve attention as so)...same goes with architect

Now jedi...I won't talk about jedi as they recieved two publishes, as well as changes in the CU...the devs messed up and seem to never get the glowsticks working just right!

But, I agree with you...theres many varying degrees for every profession, but every profession does have something wrong with it. Its a matter of perspective, but when you look at what ails each profession...there are some that really need love. We're part of a group of professions that really needs it.

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StarNick wrote:
Poing being, our weapons are our specials. Currently AoE is broken, making our weapons pointless...so it does both.

Because of AoE...they're pointless in dungeons and group PvE. We also now face the bug where splash damage goes through walls.

Because of AoE...since its broken, our weapons do not power up other specials (now its the opposite, we do pretty well in PvP as a result)...and a commando isn't a "5 offense" rating, nor even comparable to a CL 54 elite profession.

Because of AoE...once fully working, we'll become a one trick pony again as ALL our weapons will do the same exact function - but at different damage levels. Imagine you're a pistoleer with only fanshot, and that'll be what a commando will be.

Our grenades, do the same damage for some strange reason as those of pre-CU looted grenades (like 80-250 damage...and not only that, individual timers are going for minutes at times, making commandos unable to do ANYTHING in that timeframe)

Weapons broken. Weapons pointless. Role not met. The only thing we're good for is burning up SP as well as giving defenses/generic mods. But you can get that and much more from another profession, and save some extra SP to boot.

Now...every profession is going through some woes, but we've been severely handicapped due to the CU. DE's, Ents, Jedi, Ranger (especially...I consider the Rangers/Commandos to be in the same boat currently...as we both always considered our profession a lifestyle), everyone have problems. DE's and Architects always have had problems in the crafter community. But, after being directly promised (yes...numerous times) that the CU would fundamentally make commando better, and that it would affect commando the most...I think we have a major point to get some much needed attention.

We're not the only profession alone on this, but we're one of the few professions that need some major attention on multiple facets of our profession, while as other professions have a few concerns here and there.

ie Smuggler with weird XP costs, and slicing -- this is only a part of smuggler....ie Ranger, which has probably been the most gimped profession out there, needs its ENTIRE profession revamped...we need some fixes and minor revamps, but over a multitide of systems that make up our profession

ie DE needs fixed what the CU broke, they also need viable products as well as droid decay (makes up a BIG chunk of the profession, and should recieve attention as so)...same goes with architect

Now jedi...I won't talk about jedi as they recieved two publishes, as well as changes in the CU...the devs messed up and seem to never get the glowsticks working just right!

But, I agree with you...theres many varying degrees for every profession, but every profession does have something wrong with it. Its a matter of perspective, but when you look at what ails each profession...there are some that really need love. We're part of a group of professions that really needs it.

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Exactly what I was about to scream at the top of my lungs in half as polite a manner. I agree, every profession needs a little screws turned here and there, but ours needs a complete overhaul and engine rebuild. While others have squeeky brakes and a headlight out, we are pushing our profession up a hill in an arizona summer with no gas station in sight. By the way, did I mention who was left out of the fixes in the next publish? It wouldnt be commando would it? YES IT WOULD! IGNORED AGAIN!

Message Edited by Palad on 05-23-2005 07:54 PM