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Thread: If there was to be a new weapon, what would you have?

SharKaNis
Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:47 am
#1

Just wondering about what people would want if they could get their hands on a new commando piece of kit. Replacing say... The useless HAR?


I've got three ideas on weapons, add your own or comment/improve-upon/flame mine. All stats should be around the average. Also, these would be unsliced values...


Assault Rifle: I've heard the words Assault Rifle go around a lot on these forums. I'd say these stats:


IdealRange: 60m (It's a rifle, remember)

Weapon Cooldown: 3-3.5s (Bear in mind mods will alter this...)

Min damage: 60

Max damage: 200

Damage Type: Energy

Specials are the generic commando kind. Wouldn't target a specific pool, but do high damage with high cooldown. We're the slow but pack a punch kinda people, keep that in mind .



Cyro-Cannon: Cold damage anyone? We're supposed to have the interesting weapons along with the BHs. The HAR is fairly unique in it's Acid damage. Also, who wouldn't want to be known as the master of fire and ice .


Ideal Range: 30m

Weapon Cooldown: 7-7.5s

Min damage: 700

Max damage: 800

Damage Type: Cold

Specials again, high damage but none specific. Maybe some kind of 'hypotherma' status, as getting hit with a freeze-beam would have some nasty side effects .


Launcher Pistol: Not new, no, but one of my favourite commando tools. This little beauty actually packs a punch with some good moves, not to mention it's blast damage. You all know it, and may grow to love it if it had some love from the devs.


New species would be some kind of state-inflicting moves. Things like the BH specials, such as a KD move or some-such.


Ideas? Opinions? Just saying "I like this idea"? Lemme know what the flame-weilding people thing
Elhimac
Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:09 am
#2

I know perfectly well its been tossed about before, but I could go for a static E-Web repeating blaster myself


Stats would be something long the lines of

Min 30

Max 80

Speed 1,0

Range -40 @ 10m +5 @ 25m 0 @ 64m


Possibly higher in the damage, or maybe armor penetrating, which would account for higher damage.

Hopefully with an animation that had a lot more blaster bolts in it than just the few a regular blaster spits out, its a very rapidly firing blaster remember

Maybe not have any specific specials in it, but more like a constant chance of causing supperision in a cone, so that if you become the target of one, you have a set chance of getting supressed each combat round, eventually being driven prone by the volume of fire

Alternatively, a special could be a "Charge Up Shot", where the operator elects to turn the blaster into a cannon like thing with high damage and high armorpeneration but very very low refire rate (10 secs, 15 secs maybe). Thus lending it a versatility to offset the lack of mobility.
ghola_flurry
Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:27 am
#3

Grenades that give state effects( KD, Dizzy, Stun, Blind ) and a grenade launcher.



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Ster
Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:32 am
#4

An entire tree devoted to heavy weapons with something like a "Heavy Particle Beam Cannon" and "Acid Stream Launcher" and and...


Ok so enough of that. Seriously I would like to see a nice AP 2 weapon that is non-disposable.



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Pure_Fusion
Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:13 am
#5

E-Web and grenade launcher.

Or a "brain-freeze" gun. Prevents people from using mind-drain specials



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Lost79
Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:27 am
#6

I know this isn't a new weapon, but I wouldn't mind the armor similiar to the Republic Commando game, but geared for Storm Troopers and their weapons.



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Kouru
Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:39 am
#7

I like the assault rifle idea that keeps popping up. Probably something like the guns used in the

"Republic Commando" game trailer.



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gtheath
Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:45 am
#8

AP2 Assualt Rifle (or carbine for speed)
RazerWolf
Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:44 am
#9

I think most people want to see a non-disposable AP2 Assault Rifle/LMG/SAW type weapon. I know I do.



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SoonToBeBountyHunter
Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:57 am
#10

my question why an assault rifle that's more of a carbineer weapon , i would go with a "boom boom blaster"

ideal range:30m
speed 5.1 (without slice)

min dmg: 523

max dmg: 1320

damage type : blast


weapon fires 30 rounds a minute then RECHARGES for another 30 sec before your able to fire again, while waiting for it to recharge you could switch to flamethrower or something

Message Edited by SoonToBeBountyHunter on 06-17-2004 10:58 AM



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Knightcrest
Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:46 pm
#11






Kouru wrote:

I like the assault rifle idea that keeps popping up. Probably something like the guns used in the

"Republic Commando" game trailer.







DC-17m Ion Pulse Particle Rifle and a DC-15s Blaster Pistol are the weapons mainly shown. The gameis set inbetween episodes II and III, so who knows if the weapons are considered outdated at the moment... however I agree with you.


That game is another representation (through what trailers and video I have seen), of what I thought commando would be more like when I first started it in Sept of last year. Commandoes should be heavy weapons experts.. no argument there. I do have a problem not seeing us having an assault rifle. It should be our speed alternative. We are commandoes... not just grunts. We are professional soldiers. These are a couple definitions of the words to compare to what Garvin found as the Storm Commando definition. I see some similarity in these to the SW definition... and happen to notice one of our titles too.


com·man·don. pl. com·man·dos or com·man·does





    1. A small fighting force specially trained for making quick destructive raids against enemy-held areas.

    2. A member of such a force

commando


n 1: a member of a military unit trained as shock troops for hit-and-run raids 2: an amphibious military unit trained for raids into enemy territory


My reason for showing these definitions and stating of my opinion on the new weapon idea is to show that speed is mentioned in all aspects... "quick destructive raids" and "hit-and-run". We are already slow in combat with our weapons. Why add in a sluggish rifle? True it should be called an assault rifle in my opinion, but we need a speed alternative to fall back on when those heavy weapons miss or after they land and we need to continue the assault to finish the fight. A pistol (LP is a cool idea but..) is just too light for us. Something that does blast, cold,electricity or /shudder stun (I.E. DC-17m ION Pulse Particle Rifle)... I hate stun, but would take it if offered


Someone said the HAR was unique in offering acid... let's see we have the Scatter, DX2, DXR6, Nym's Carbine, DXR6b, HAR, and the Heavy Acid Stream Launcher offering that damage. Nope not unique in my opinion (not a flame to who said that btw).


Electricity is looking pretty rare with only the LLC, Heavy Lightening Cannon, and Vibro Lance doing this type.


Stun is not aswidely availableeither with only the Jawa Ion Rifle, Tangle Pistol, Geo Pistol andStun Baton. Tangles flat out suck and cannot bemade well at all even withenhancements barring legendary or exceptional.


Blast is our toy, but seems to me weare the weakest with access to it in dmgdealing. RL's, C12's,C22's, LP, and Power Hammer.RL's can do mass dmg if you hit.... but slow as hell and you are very vulnerable while kneeling. Nades... man I hope they fix em well. LP not very useful at all with no pistol mods. Yeah you can use smuggler etc, but is not worth it in high end content with no AP rating and low speed without pistoleer. Power Hammer is AP2... a blunt hammer has higher AP than a pistol that fires mini-rockets and smokes the dps on any of our blast weapons.


Cold is the rarest of rare weapons in dmg type. Only two I know of that offer it (correct me if I am wrong). SG82 rifle and the Cryoban Grenade. Only Rifleman and us have access to these as far as elite/hybrids go.


Looking at this breakdown make a DC-17m style upgrade for an assault rifle with carbine style rate of fire with a AP2 rating and cold damage.Me being a carbineer yes it would suit me to have itbe bostered by carbineer like the LP is bolstered by pistoleer, but we need a high rate of fire style weapon. Or give it's own specials and mods. Either would suit me fine.


A note to everyone wanting it to be a sniper rifle. Do you really want another sluggish weapon? Need heavy firepower from our heavy weapons and an assault rifle to depend on when things get tight. I sure as heck don't wanna see commando's having someone get in the midrange and not be able to fend for themselves. Get in, get the job done quickly, and get out. Lead with heavy weapons, close the gap with an assault weapon, seal the deal and leave.








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SharKaNis
Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:05 pm
#12

Something AR2 seems to be popular, as well as something fast firing. Hope people are taking notes here....
Restrik
Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:53 pm
#13

I would say this foran assault "rifle" (carbine) 300-500 damage speed 3.0 (unsliced) ionic damage, ham being something like 80,60,50 AR2 or 3







The NGE is a decent start. Now lets bring the rest of the worlds up to par with Tatooine and Mustafar
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