Commando Archive
Thread: PvP and commando a NO. ha
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gaundi
Mon May 03, 2004 6:24 am
#1
Guys. I have heard you all say that commando is pretty mucha joke in pvp now.
Your wrong. You just need to think about it. Use some tactics. If you think not. Take a look at my template below.
I finished this about 2 days ago. Since then. I have dueling 10+ times. And lost once. I have dueled tkm/rifleman mcm/rifleman fencer/rifleman swordsman you name it. And i have been pretty much untouched.
1 person was able to beat me. Fencer/Doc only because he could put out his fire and completely heal with 1 stim. And he had a mind poison gaffi.
Just wanted to say. Dont give up on this class. its much more useful than alot of you are making it sound.
Cylenthia_Tavishaun
Mon May 03, 2004 6:47 am
#2
am I to assume that you used your commando skills 90% of the fights or did you use your Master Fencer skills 90% of the time? In my own personal experience, it seems that a Master Fencer is an EXTREMELY potent force in a PvP encounter. What I think many people are having issues with is that a commando can't do as much damage in PvP as we'd like. You can shoot a FlameSingle 2 at someone at it misses for 11K points of damage, and this seems to happen a large percentage of the time. After that first failure, you are surely NOT going to switch over to the HAR which is considerably broken, and by the time you got your hand back to toss a 100 pt grenade you'd have your Eye Shot out, your armor cleaved in two, or you're laying on your back while being pummelled.
People aren't giving up, we are just asking for some changes to be made to this profession in order for it to become valuable. And yes, yes...we know that we should wait for the Combat Rebalance because all sorts of neeto whizband stuff is going to be there.
But hey...we get Mandolorian don't we...[dripping sarcasm]
People aren't giving up, we are just asking for some changes to be made to this profession in order for it to become valuable. And yes, yes...we know that we should wait for the Combat Rebalance because all sorts of neeto whizband stuff is going to be there.
But hey...we get Mandolorian don't we...[dripping sarcasm]
gaundi
Mon May 03, 2004 7:27 am
#3
Here is what i used.
+40 Accuracy food
Dizzy, Lunge, Intimidate. Flame 2 for 1300 dmg (and the person had armor) Then i switch back to fencer for def whileI wait for the next flame. Hit 2 more dizzies. Flame again. Mad dmg. Lethal in pvp 
Raptor2k1
Mon May 03, 2004 3:28 pm
#4
The problem though, is that not many commandos have fencer, and commando by itself is inherently weak (Ie. almost all the utility abilities you mentioned come from other professions.)
The problem with using tactics right now as a commando is that we can't really use any. Our only working abilities of merit are the flamethrower specials, which are rather one-dimensional. Any skills used to tactical advantage come from other professions, unfrotunately.
motarian
Tue May 04, 2004 12:21 am
#5
i don't think anyone said nocharacter with commando skills can do good in pvp, just that commandodoesn't offer much for pvp unless the person you fight isn't wearing armor
john_p
Tue May 04, 2004 4:49 am
#6
How about; Master Commando, Novice Medic, Fencer 3/4/4/1 or 4/4/4/0 ?
MC + Fencer 3/4/4/1
+90 dodge
+100 CoB
One Hand Dizzy 2
Flamesingle2 
Zaax
Tue May 04, 2004 11:59 pm
#7
muahahaha i am at fencer 0444 and about to give up my novice medic.
i agree commando by itself is no good for pvp. i dueled some m8ts to try out my idea of using heavy weapons when ranged guys kite you. i was dueling a master carbineer.
anyway he was barly hitting me, but all my 6 rockets missed him! i tried using the flamer as my long range but that didnt hit to much either. i am begining to think PvP is just stupid!
side note: rockets dont really hit if the target is moving huh?
Kanubis
Wed May 05, 2004 1:21 am
#8
The switch method, where you equip a melee weapon between flame specials, is effective, but not practical in large scale PvP.
Raptor2k1
Wed May 05, 2004 12:02 pm
#9
Well, they allegedly can, but the odds of it happening are very small.
maddogs
Wed May 05, 2004 12:27 pm
#10
gaundi wrote:
Here is what i used.
+40 Accuracy food
Dizzy, Lunge, Intimidate. Flame 2 for 1300 dmg (and the person had armor) Then i switch back to fencer for def whileI wait for the next flame. Hit 2 more dizzies. Flame again. Mad dmg. Lethal in pvp
yes very leathel compo very good thinking
only thing is +40 foods not all the foods there is out there most experinced pvpers now have synthstake(43% vers all dameg typs for 31 hits) def vers kd (im not rember the name of it but mine has +93% vers kd) def vers intimadat food(some werd name mins +89% vers intimadat) and many many more foods out there
only food there ant a haf decent counter for is posion + diseas go figur lol (i sed haf decent yes there is def vers them but highest iv ever seen is 12% lol)
thing is commandos arnt even haf reliabel by them selfs theres only one other profesion like that and thats pistolers but id you add bh and pistoler to gather you have a killer templat expecily with the new gen pistoles that iv seen up to 600 max dam (have thos ben nerfd yet)
so yes commando with other profesions (actuly flame 4 with other profesions 
) can be use abel agent the other ppl
) can be use abel agent the other ppl but is commando realy a liabel profesion for pvp NO
Zaax
Thu May 06, 2004 2:49 am
#11
Kanubis wrote:
The switch method, where you equip a melee weapon between flame specials, is effective, but not practical in large scale PvP.
can u expliain why plz? i dont have much xperiance in large scale pvp. (i dont have that much in small scale either lol, i hope that will change soon)
SpecWar1
Fri May 07, 2004 12:59 am
#13
You can laugh but your dealing with newbies or people that just aint prepared. Anyone that has a blanket will turn off your fire and pretty much hit you with more damaging specials. Problem with blankets is this, they stop your attack from being effective and the recovery from your flame takes too long so your open to attack while your wait. Now i dont see a helmet that can stop a riflemans master headshot, nor a antidote that can heal a CMs DOT damage from disease or poisonn of mind, nor do i see an anti knockdown and dizzy pill sold on vendors. So yes commando is weak now due to blankets and if you dont know... well now you know! Your fighting people that just arent prepared to deal with commando. But i have faught and help destroy 21 bases now and i will tell you that I love commando and am a die hard, BUT commando is really bad right now due to the genius plan to put out commandos fire and implamenting it on the population with out the thought of consequence to the profession and combat balance as a whole and that my friends sums up the reason why this game is really UNBALANCED!
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