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Thread: Flamethrowers
Its a game.... Use all the real world examples you want. However its just a game. This is how they choosen to balance the game. So unless they want to re-write from the ground up some things cant be like real life.
I'm not asking for real life. Let's see, in real life guns will always beat a sword. hmmm, this game too. GUNS are a product of real life, FLAMETHROWERS are a product of real life. Flamethrowers aren't an illusionary fantasy thing (Like lightsabers), flamethrowers are taken from real life.
Yes this is a game, but it's a messed up game when someone with a pistol is doing more damage than someone with a flamethrower. I'm not asking for real life, i'm asking for improvement and balance.
well said and i totally agree
Aleksander_Graveheart wrote:
I'm not asking for real life. Let's see, in real life guns will always beat a sword. hmmm, this game too. GUNS are a product of real life, FLAMETHROWERS are a product of real life. Flamethrowers aren't an illusionary fantasy thing (Like lightsabers), flamethrowers are taken from real life.
Yes this is a game, but it's a messed up game when someone with a pistol is doing more damage than someone with a flamethrower. I'm not asking for real life, i'm asking for improvement and balance.
As for the flamethrowers being deadlier... it's unlikely. You'd need to find a liquid that has more energy stored than Kerosene. Kerosene is an inherently extremely efficient fuel, and can be maintained at room temperature as a liquid, so it is unlikely to ever be exceeded. That's why it's still being used even after 80 years of weapons development.
The Modern Militaries of the world no longer emplament flamethrowers.
They were banned by the Genivia (sp) convention after WW2.. Its considered a in humaine weapon because it gives you a long misrable death..(running around on fire screaming unless someone is nice enough to shoot you)
Also the Flamethrower in Real Life was a dangerous weapons to carry , Believe it or no no one wanted to be the Sapper or Firebat (which ever you like to call a Flamethrower infantrty)
The Flamethrower was extremly heavy and extremly unstable . one bullet to the backpack containers and you and your entire squad would go up in flames.
Now the real use of the Flamethrower was Clearing out Bunkers.. They had a Gas Grenade or propien charge they would throw in the bunker filling the air with flamable gas then aim the flamethrower in and Pooof entire bunkers gone with everyone inside.
But I agree Starwars has flamethrowers and Flamethrowers would be the best anti infantry weapon in close ranges..
I was dueling with a pikeman and they get 18 range and well I am getting 14 (with the new patch) but I cant take morre then a couple of hits and then my flamethrower does about 50 damage?
I forgot to add
No Flamethrowers have been developed for the military after the WW2 style Flamethrower..
so unless the future they reveal there top secret super flamethrower project its best to assume flamethrowers are a thing of the past
the animation for flame single 1 should really be our basic attack...not the flaming ball of pathetic doom
in star wars have you ever seen a flamer throw a big wad of fire? no a stream of fire! in real life? stream of fire!
Ok, i just want to give the DEV's and other people an idea of how damaging a flamethrower is, and is supposed to be in this game.
http://krimzonpyro.com/ep/infodir/flamethrowers.html
I want you people to look at those pictures...and then imagine you are standing in the middle of that. I saw someone say that "Well, in melee range you should be killed if your only using a flamethrower".
I beg to differ. If a target was foolish enough to get within melee range of someone with a flamethrower they would be dead. Look at the pictures again, now again, imagine being in the middle of that.
And this is the future, so i'm thinking we wouldn't be using Fuel in the canister's anymore. I mean for gods sakes they used that method in world war I (1915). Even napalm wouldn't be enough now since it's been used since Vietnam.
This is the future, and flamethrowers should be even deadlier. Outside of 20 meters, flamethrowers should be almost useless. And going further away should render it even less usefull. But, within 20meters, flamethrowers should be the most destructive weapon in the game. No swordsman or teras kasi should even be able to deal as much damage as a commando in melee range with a flamethrower.
Again, if you think otherwise, look at the pictures on the link above. Now, imagine being in the middle of that. You are dead...stop, drop and roll isn't going to do much here...you are simply dead. And dev's, that's how it should be.
Tepic_Sand wrote:They burn people, mine is shiny
That pretty much covers all of it.