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I like the idea as consumables in place of our specials with only one or three damage oriented or AOE specials. The only things about our older consumables was that their cost didn't justify the end result. They missed way too much (even at master and at perfect range against a stationary target) and had an inhibitive HAM cost. I would like our big damage consumables to do a big amount of damage plus 1 effect. The cost of this equipment as well as the looong cooldown timers and high SAC cost would be enough to balance this in my opinion. The fact that they are consumables would also mean no weapon switching! And it would be a good excuse to bring back our old weapon animations.

As for the specials one damage special with a 1.9 multiplier, an offensive buff like berserk, and a turret/droid/vehicle specific special that does 2X damage against mechanical targets.

Keep the LP,PFT,Proton Rifle as they are
1. Flamethrower (reduce the requirement to Incendiary Weapons II
2. HAR (fix the self blind to work as intended)

Restored and Revamped Consumables: Note, 5 or 6 second cooldown between different launchers?
1. Rocket Launcher: Master Commando
*6m radius(not cone) AOE KD
*700-1300 Kinetic Damage w/700 Heat Elemental Damage (capped)
*65m Range
*30 second cooldown (individual cooldowns)
2. Heavy Particle Beam Cannon: Beam Weapons II
*1m cone AOE 20% Armor Break
*500-1100 Energy Damage (capped)
*40m Range
*30 second cooldown
3. Acid Beam Cannon: Beam Weapons III
*6m cone AOE Blind
*500-1100 Energy Damage w/500 Acid Elemental Damage (capped)
*40m Range (I mean how far can you fling an acid beam? what the heck is an acid beam?)
*30 second cooldown
4. Lightning Beam Cannon: Beam Weapons IV
*6m cone AOE Fire DoT
*400-1000 Energy Damage w/800 Electrical Elemental Damage (capped)
*40m Range
*30 second cooldown

Grenades: Not really sure, but a few suggestions
1. Thermal Detonator:
*10m radius AOE Fire DoT
*allow the DoT to be capped at 300/tick for 3-4 ticks
2. Imperial Detonator:
*Keep as is, AOE KD
3. Proton Grenade:
*something other than a fire DoT (we have 3 of those) maybe make this into a satchel charge

On DoTs, I would suggest that the first is almost guaranteed to stick on all targets in the AOE, but make successive DoT's harder to stick.

Oh, and one more thing, Give grenades the ability to IGNORE LOS! except for structures of course, but we should be able to throw a grenade over a rock or around a tree.

Message Edited by RoastyToasty on 09-22-2005 10:00 AM

feedback?

I had some skills up there. Sorry that the post is kind of long. All I can think of is:
1. A nice Damage special
2. And offensive buff
3. An anti-mechanical attack (for droids, turrets, and vehicles).

*Snares are available through other professions (maybe the cryoban?)
*KD is in the grenades and Rockets
*blind is in the acid stuff
*Fire DoT's are in the weapons and with the guaranteed first DoT idea would be useful.

I don't think we really need anything else, maybe a bleed as this is damage centric. Something like firearm strike, but it inflicts a bleed instead of KD. Also, if the weapons are consumables that takes away the whole switching weapons thing which I can bet, most Commando's aren't big fans of.

Personally, I'd be happy enough to never see a return of consumable weapons. There is no way I'll stick around in this profession if the majority of this profession isdedicated to the use of weapons that cost me 5k to fire one time soI can do the same damageI do with a a Rifle. That part of commando is a memory I am happy to have behind me. The conversion of consumables to permanent weapons is probably the best part of the CU. The way in which it was done, is the worst part.

So, abilities?

Give us the ability to craft our own grenades, just as rangers may craft their own traps. This way i won't have to convince a weaponsmith to tie up their factories for three days just for me. At the same time, grenade stacks should be experimentable, and should be between 20 and 35 uses to a stack. The complexity of these devices should be reduced a tad also, especially the components to facilitate shorter factory run durations. Grenades other than the proton should have any identical parts now called for removed, to allow a commando to make these in the field by hand when neccesary.

While we're on the subject of grenades, I'm ok with the amazingly slow attack speeds, if and only if, they hit for massive (1500-3000) damage at the master commando (proton grenades) level, and the lesser grenades produce *much* longer lasting and equally stronger snares, stuns, blinds, and Flame DOT's. If my modified speed with a grenade is going to be6, you'd better make it worth doing absolutely nothing else for that 6 second cooldown.

Grenade DOT's should last for a minute, and all grenade movement penalties should be on 40 second timers, roots at 20 seconds. DOT's should tick away for what the grenade strikes at which should be anarrow damage range, say250-400. Remember, this places the intial strike at 500-800, which will be followed by a full minute of DOT's ticking every 5 seconds. Proton grenades should be straight 100% area damage with no associated DOT.Getting hit with a grenade should be something you 100% do not want to happen. If Jabba had seen an SWG thermal detonator in his palace in the hands of a Bounty Hunter trying to negotiate price, he might have died laughing right then and there. Not even 3PO would have been scared by it. That needs to change.

Elemental damage needs to be increased by about 50% on all commandoweapons.

Master Commando needs to receive a speed boost to heavy weapons, something in the order of +15. Heavy Weapons Accuracy also needs an increase, something in the order of another +5 per box in the acid line, and another +10 at master.

Commando should recieve 100% AOE with a PFT, 40% AOE damage with all other heavies now so equiped.

Since our special abilities are apparently to remain tied to our weapons, some more diversity in those effects would be very much appreciated. I'd like more than fire dot's, a single target KDand blind. Since we are tied to the melee professions, armor break of some sort, or intimidate would be prime candidates for weapons like the PBC and launcher pistolthat currently serve no function past novice. The damage output on these doesn't need to increase, but there should be utility built into them that keeps them useful even for master commandos. Other professions find low level "special attacks" useful past novice. Our weapons are our specials, so so should we.

Commando needs to have at least a couple of special attacks. Possibly one at novice, and another at master. These should be on par with the rather weak damage output that a pistoleer gets. If you want more damaging specials than that, you'll need another ranged profession, but at least melee hybrids won't be completely worthless.

There should be as, many have stated, a master level version of the Rocket Launcher. No AOE, just kinetic and heat Damage, no KD. Call it whatever you like, call it a railgun for all I care, but make that, and the proton rifle both craftable, even if it's with limited use schematics.

Make basic Center of Being useable with heavy weapons equiped. We're required to learn it, let us use it.

I'm pretty tired of banging my head against a brick wall when it comes to threads like this though. It's mostly like spitting into the wind. I'm sure a majority of commandos feel the same about now, so don't be super surprised if the responses are limited- it's through no fault of your own, we've all just been down this path of "what do you think we need?" about a hundred times each.