Commando Archive

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Wearrapipple wrote:

Gentle Commandos,

I have currently maxed out my template with MBH, MC and pistols xxx4. This left but one skill point which has gone into FS ranged accuracy. I quite enjoy pvp and I am looking to enhance the template with more FS trees. This is a 3-in-1 post as there are a number of issues I'd like to raise with the Commando community:

1. FS trees: I was hoping to get 6 lines of FS - Ranged/Melee defence, accuracy and speed. I cannot bear to part with my PFT so was planning on trading in pistoleer for the 23 additional skill points I will need. Is this a very bad plan e.g. ought I to ditch some of the BH lines instead (or perhaps ditch BH altogether)? I am fairly fixed on dropping pistols but if anyone has a cogent reason why this not a good idea, input is welcome.

2. My PFT. Recently sliced by a smuggler to produce a DPS of 459 (modified). How does this compare with other commandos' weapon of choice? I paid about C25k for the PFT and around C350k for the slice. Are there any weaponsmiths on the Ahazi server who can advise if I should stick to this PFT or are there better ones out there? If so, how much are they likely to trade for? I'll need to get Bounty Hunting pronto for funds if this weapon is sub-prime.

3. An observation, really. I have been merrily dueling with fairly consistent, dire, results. I particularly find that combat medics hose me due to my inability to heal quickly with stim Ds while as far as damage goes my PFT is rarely more potent than whatever the opponent is holding (generally a rifle by the looks of things). I can see that in pvp a commando can be quite handy with crowd control, particularly with the RL, and I think I have been able to contribute to the GCW. However, one on one, commandos are extremely weak and I must confess that my resolve to resist switching to Rifles / CM has been sorely tested at times! While not strictly a commando question, what foods, drinks and spices would be suitable to make my current template more viable in one on one pvp? And would this make any practical difference or would those pesky CMs still hose me?

Incidentally, if anyone is up for some GCW'ing on Ahazi and would like to form a commando squad then I'd be happy to attempt to organise something. It would be great to see a squad in pvp that didn't consist of jedi + me.

Oh, that's 4 in 1. Sorry.

Kind regards to one and all.

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1. Why 6 lines of FS skills? If you're going to go Jedi, do that and make your alt a Commando. With that in mind, I would think about picking up Carbineer and dropping BH since Carbineer offers similar damage output with 15 fewer sp's spent in novice scout. However, if you really like MBH then I see no reason besides no more AOE root to drop pistoleer. If you love AOE root, then drop pistoleer.

2. Is your PFT unenhanced? It sounds unenhanced, I think a good krayted or Power Celled PFT can hit over 500 DPS easy and that's before slice. As you're an MBH do some missions until you get some power cells and the loot components for your slice.

3. If you're fighting CM's I say your only hope is to catch them with a well timed KD, followed by gobs of damage. Use ruby bliel with your stims and keep your stomach empty for the ruby. Right now ruby lets you use a stim IMMEDIATELY after drinking it, and it can be drunk until you're full. The fire DoT is your friend if you stick it early on. I hear the Proton Rifle has a really high damage cap, so you might think of switching to that once you get that first fire DoT to stick. Even with all of this, a CM worth half his salt will kill you in a duel. Don't feel bad, it's just that Commando isn't as suited to dueling as other combat profs. It's more of a support role as it stands and even when they fix our AOE, this won't change dueling any since it's 1v1 (unless you're dealing with pets too, then we OWN! against pets).

4. not on Ahazi

Thank you sir. An excellent response of the kind of quality expected from this forum.

It looks to me as thoughpistols will be exiting. The root is nice but I can live without it.

Over 500 DPS unsliced? I need a better weapon! My WS knowledge is next to none. Can my current PFT be upgraded or is a new one the only option?

Re: the proton thingummyjig, looks like I'll have to finally bite the bullet and get ROTW. It's a Necrosis drop, isn't it?

Cheers, chum.

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Wearrapipple wrote:

1. FS trees: I was hoping to get 6 lines of FS - Ranged/Melee defence, accuracy and speed. I cannot bear to part with my PFT so was planning on trading in pistoleer for the 23 additional skill points I will need. Is this a very bad plan e.g. ought I to ditch some of the BH lines instead (or perhaps ditch BH altogether)? I am fairly fixed on dropping pistols but if anyone has a cogent reason why this not a good idea, input is welcome.

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Hedd wrote:

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Wearrapipple wrote:

Gentle Commandos,

I have currently maxed out my template with MBH, MC and pistols xxx4. This left but one skill point which has gone into FS ranged accuracy. I quite enjoy pvp and I am looking to enhance the template with more FS trees. This is a 3-in-1 post as there are a number of issues I'd like to raise with the Commando community:

1. FS trees: I was hoping to get 6 lines of FS - Ranged/Melee defence, accuracy and speed. I cannot bear to part with my PFT so was planning on trading in pistoleer for the 23 additional skill points I will need. Is this a very bad plan e.g. ought I to ditch some of the BH lines instead (or perhaps ditch BH altogether)? I am fairly fixed on dropping pistols but if anyone has a cogent reason why this not a good idea, input is welcome.

There is really no reason to have that many lines of FS. Only 4 of the FS lines really help you any: Ranged Speed, Ranged Acc, Melee and Ranged Defence. The rest is a waste mostly.

2. My PFT. Recently sliced by a smuggler to produce a DPS of 459 (modified). How does this compare with other commandos' weapon of choice? I paid about C25k for the PFT and around C350k for the slice. Are there any weaponsmiths on the Ahazi server who can advise if I should stick to this PFT or are there better ones out there? If so, how much are they likely to trade for? I'll need to get Bounty Hunting pronto for funds if this weapon is sub-prime.

459 sounds like a speed sliced basic unenhanced. Probably has a Max dam around 1k if youre doing well. Get some enhanced power cells and see if someone can fire you up a real good one, notably Damage capped around 1140-ish, speed of 2.88-ish, with a SAC cap of 100. Thats your basic enhanced flamer before slice and maybe 1 or 2 points of exp to stick into elemental or speed. You'll be pullin more damage then, I love mine.

3. An observation, really. I have been merrily dueling with fairly consistent, dire, results. I particularly find that combat medics hose me due to my inability to heal quickly with stim Ds while as far as damage goes my PFT is rarely more potent than whatever the opponent is holding (generally a rifle by the looks of things). I can see that in pvp a commando can be quite handy with crowd control, particularly with the RL, and I think I have been able to contribute to the GCW. However, one on one, commandos are extremely weak and I must confess that my resolve to resist switching to Rifles / CM has been sorely tested at times! While not strictly a commando question, what foods, drinks and spices would be suitable to make my current template more viable in one on one pvp? And would this make any practical difference or would those pesky CMs still hose me?

Dueling is alot of skill involved in the placement of specials and heals, sorta like a chess game. Any good template needs some sort of healer, its almost required. Stims might cut it for PvE but not vs anything else. I grabbed Novice Medic and +25 healing Eff enhancements and I can take Jedi on a regular basis with a combination of well placed disarming shots, decent Def, that nice 350 tick fire, bacta shot/stim rotating, and good old fashioned power (<8 12% crit slice!). I can take 2 out of 3 Jedi one on one and plow over most nonjedi.

Incidentally, if anyone is up for some GCW'ing on Ahazi and would like to form a commando squad then I'd be happy to attempt to organise something. It would be great to see a squad in pvp that didn't consist of jedi + me.

Oh, that's 4 in 1. Sorry.

Kind regards to one and all.

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Some very good chat there. I will need to speak to my friendly neighbourhood WS to see what can be done. Good advice on the FS lines and also that nice drink to help with stims.

Cheers, all.

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Wearrapipple wrote:

Gentle Commandos,

I have currently maxed out my template with MBH, MC and pistols xxx4. This left but one skill point which has gone into FS ranged accuracy. I quite enjoy pvp and I am looking to enhance the template with more FS trees. This is a 3-in-1 post as there are a number of issues I'd like to raise with the Commando community:

1. FS trees: I was hoping to get 6 lines of FS - Ranged/Melee defence, accuracy and speed. I cannot bear to part with my PFT so was planning on trading in pistoleer for the 23 additional skill points I will need. Is this a very bad plan e.g. ought I to ditch some of the BH lines instead (or perhaps ditch BH altogether)? I am fairly fixed on dropping pistols but if anyone has a cogent reason why this not a good idea, input is welcome.

There is really no reason to have that many lines of FS. Only 4 of the FS lines really help you any: Ranged Speed, Ranged Acc, Melee and Ranged Defence. The rest is a waste mostly.

2. My PFT. Recently sliced by a smuggler to produce a DPS of 459 (modified). How does this compare with other commandos' weapon of choice? I paid about C25k for the PFT and around C350k for the slice. Are there any weaponsmiths on the Ahazi server who can advise if I should stick to this PFT or are there better ones out there? If so, how much are they likely to trade for? I'll need to get Bounty Hunting pronto for funds if this weapon is sub-prime.

459 sounds like a speed sliced basic unenhanced. Probably has a Max dam around 1k if youre doing well. Get some enhanced power cells and see if someone can fire you up a real good one, notably Damage capped around 1140-ish, speed of 2.88-ish, with a SAC cap of 100. Thats your basic enhanced flamer before slice and maybe 1 or 2 points of exp to stick into elemental or speed. You'll be pullin more damage then, I love mine.

3. An observation, really. I have been merrily dueling with fairly consistent, dire, results. I particularly find that combat medics hose me due to my inability to heal quickly with stim Ds while as far as damage goes my PFT is rarely more potent than whatever the opponent is holding (generally a rifle by the looks of things). I can see that in pvp a commando can be quite handy with crowd control, particularly with the RL, and I think I have been able to contribute to the GCW. However, one on one, commandos are extremely weak and I must confess that my resolve to resist switching to Rifles / CM has been sorely tested at times! While not strictly a commando question, what foods, drinks and spices would be suitable to make my current template more viable in one on one pvp? And would this make any practical difference or would those pesky CMs still hose me?

Dueling is alot of skill involved in the placement of specials and heals, sorta like a chess game. Any good template needs some sort of healer, its almost required. Stims might cut it for PvE but not vs anything else. I grabbed Novice Medic and +25 healing Eff enhancements and I can take Jedi on a regular basis with a combination of well placed disarming shots, decent Def, that nice 350 tick fire, bacta shot/stim rotating, and good old fashioned power (<8 12% crit slice!). I can take 2 out of 3 Jedi one on one and plow over most nonjedi.

Incidentally, if anyone is up for some GCW'ing on Ahazi and would like to form a commando squad then I'd be happy to attempt to organise something. It would be great to see a squad in pvp that didn't consist of jedi + me.

Oh, that's 4 in 1. Sorry.

Kind regards to one and all.

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assinator wrote:



2/3 jedi duels are wins?!

what is your template? i wanna try it out

i currently don't have any medic (master commando/riflemen 0404 pistols, 0400fs) and im thinking of dropping a line of pistols for some medic

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Message Edited by Hedd on 09-13-2005 02:03 PM

Message Edited by Wearrapipple on 10-09-2005 08:56 AM