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I still see no point to having AOE built-in with the damage limiter of the elemental damage.....at least let us get 1k elemental damage then lol!

Its barely worth having with full AoE, as we then become a one trick pony again - its even more dismal that we have limited AoE. If they want to limit our bloody AoE, then give us a bloody damage multiplier. Non-HW can do just about the same damage, and sometimes more, than our HW...and can have bloody full AoE on specials such as fanshot.

Its hyprocritical and frustrating at the same time. Although, we're at least seeing something.

i hear ya starnick ive been a commando for about a year and a half now. and thanks for pushing the issues for us commando's

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StarNick wrote:
Non-HW can do just about the same damage, and sometimes more, than our HW...and can have bloody full AoE on specials such as fanshot.

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Not to be the "bad guy" but our AoE's do have the advantage that we can use specials with them. I think concealshot + AoE or AniperShot +AoE are a few steps better than fanshot. But I agree, we are not Offensive: 5.

The lack of powerups is really making us on par with pistols/carbines in damage, not Riflemen/Swordsmen.

"Not to be the "bad guy" but our AoE's do have the advantage that we can use specials with them. I think concealshot + AoE or AniperShot +AoE are a few steps better than fanshot. But I agree, we are not Offensive: 5.

The lack of powerups is really making us on par with pistols/carbines in damage, not Riflemen/Swordsmen."

Thats the advantage, but is it really an advantage when you consider that all our weapons do the same function and that its the same damage as a pistoleer? Now, if the Proton Rifle wasn't a random loot off of Necrosis, it would suffice if our weapons did full AoE as we could fall back on a Non-AoE. But we don't...so in dungeons we have only other profession's weapons to fall back on, as our "specials" will be at a big disadvantage.

Remember a while back with the issue that if riflemen had a min range, they would be useless in dungeons? The same thing for us with AoE

Now, if we could get a nice damage modifier (or something that pumps up damage to a hvy damage dealer) and a 30% AoE (what it seems like so far), then that should be really nice and bring us up to par. The fact that these weapons only come at an advantage to us with AoE and any profession's special is just that, to bring us up to be comparable we need another profession - those ratings were for a single profession.

So, you're not being a bad guy at all

Btw...with full auto single, I can do around 1300 damage to my target and in the AoE with my elite carbine...now if we use legshot and get a 30% AoE (i hit for 1750 damage with a PFT)...my AoE would be better using the Carbine ironically. If our weapons powered-up specials, this wouldn't be the case.

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StarNick wrote:
" Now, if the Proton Rifle wasn't a random loot off of Necrosis, it would suffice if our weapons did full AoE as we could fall back on a Non-AoE. But we don't...so in dungeons we have only other profession's weapons to fall back on, as our "specials" will be at a big disadvantage.

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Just so you know my proton rifle (THAT STILL DOES NOT FIRE) has a listed radius of 6. I know on TC when the CU was in Beta Alpha, it had this listed as well but it had no AoE. (Similar to the Pre and post CU EE3). We need to make sure it (FIRES) doesn't suddenly start working and hit in a 6 (guessing meter) radius or else we still have no single target strike capability.

On beta, it showed that too, but wasn't hitting for AoE. I don't know *throws out his book* AoE is totally messed up where even I'm starting to not get it now!

Been testing all of our weapons on TC:

The FT wasn't doing any AoE, then BAM suddenly was doing 80% splash damage. Then after testing other weaps and getting 1 splas damage, it did that then.

The PFT was the first weapon I was testing, it was doing 40% splash damage, now its doing 1 splash damage. RL and HAR don't do AoE now. ASL never did anything better than 1 damage. Grenades...Ill talk about grenades later.

The coding seems so convoluted I bet the devs don't even understand it at this point. And the damages occur far to random for it to be a dice roll of sorts (raptor earlier suggested that), if it is then thats broken (and no one told us if it was on a dice roll or not).

Gah! *runs in frustration*

(Plays Imperial March)

At the SOE Fortress.

Dev 08-"Hey I'm gonna take a quick break. Don't tell the Overlords!"

Dev 13-"Ok you got it.... Not to self report Dev 08 for slacking so I can get a big raise."

One of the many animals that provide game sport for the Dev SBDs runs into the office. It appears to be a Monkey, one of the failed experiments used to create suitable power for the SWG servers, now done by Hamsters.

The Monkey takes up Dev 08's Computer for SWG Coding and wildy fails at the keyboard hitting many random keys.

Dev 13-"Eh shut up over there!"

*Monkey Noise*

Dev 13-"What! A Monkey!"

*Monkey smashes keyboard with Extreme Ferocity*

Dev 13-"Damn that Monkey is to high above my level! I'll have to call support."

Support finally answers after 3 hours.

Support-"Hello can we help you?"

Dev 13-"Yes I can't deal with this Monkey messing with everything. It's like level 78 and I'm level 20!"

Support-"We'll nerf it's level to the balanced level and send help."

Dev 13-"Ok."

The Monkey is nerfed to level 60.

Then two roaming Dev Jedi SBDs come in and spot the Monkey. With their ability to block most incoming damage and heal it they open fire with their Arm Blasters and swing their Lightsabers. 5 minutes later the Monkey is just about dead and warps away.

Jedi SBD-"ROFL! We have PWNED teh Monkey! Target Monkey is HAXXOR and SPLOITS Burst Run. All other Devs NOOBS!"

Dev 13-"Ah get out here!"

Jedi SBD-"NOOB!"

Jedi SBD Force Run away into the other parts of the Fortress.

Dev 08-"Hey you know it was like 11 PM when I left right?"

Dev 13-"Well some damn Monkey screwed up the publish coding."

Dev 08-"Nah he just finished it for me."

Lol...yes, thats what reminds me of AoE right now. Just as peachy as a chimpanzee.

Its not 100% aoe but with my plasma i am hitting my main target for about 1000-1300pts and my secondary target for about 300-400pts.. but doesnt appear to be working all the time.

Message Edited by Hochi-schu on 05-25-2005 03:55 PM