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Thread: AT-ST’s Bugged with Heavy Particle Beam Canno

DarthShag
Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:41 pm
#1

n?

Ok, I’m a noob Commando (1/1/1/0) so bare with me here... and I know I don’t post often so please don’t ignore this post based on this fact.


I’ve been running level 24 Rebel faction missions and have occasionally been running into a few AT-ST’s as of late. Normally I’ve just been scrubbing these missions but today I decided to see what kind of damage I could do since I recently bought a Heavy Particle Beam Cannon... Let me give a quick description of my weapons and the AT-ST first...


Flame Thrower (speed slice)
AP=none
Type=heat
Min=442
Max=839
Speed=3.5


Heavy Particle Beam Cannon (damage slice)
AP=heavy
Type=energy
Min=2418
Max=3836
Speed=5.1


First attempt on AT-ST
Started attack with /flamesingle1 (2488 heat damage + dot) and got off two normal hits with flamethrower before incapped and deathblowed (909 and 1103 heat damage). Waited for the dot to finish so that I could see what kind of damage I was able to do. AT-ST stats after my first attack: 13708/18003(19617). Total damage dealt with Flame Thrower=5909 and I’m pretty happy with these numbers as a noob.


Second Attempt on AT-ST
Time to try the Heavy Particle Beam Cannon. Got off 1 shot (4761 energy damage) before incap and deathblow. This is where it get’s strange. Since AP=heavy on the beam cannon and the AT-ST resists 70% of energy damage, my calculations show it should have hit for 1428.3. AT-ST stats after second attack 13565/18003(19617). Total damage dealt with Heavy Particle Beam Cannon=143.


So by this calculation, the AT-ST resisted 97% of the damage. I think the dev’s dropped a decimal point by accident. In my instance, instead of (4761 * 30%=1428) they are using (4761 * 3%=142.83 (143)).


Are my calculations off somehow?





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JangototheFort
Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:49 pm
#2

n?Heh, well I've seen a novice commando take out an at-st when he had buffs. But good job. Anyway im a noob to but what does flame DoT mean? thanks



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alphacrafter
Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:53 pm
#3

n?damage over time
Zelgodus
Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:59 pm
#4

n?DOT means Damage Over Time

Flame Dot means the mobs was takeing Flamce Damage Over Time.

So one someone uses a Flame Singal 1 on a mob it take X amount of Damage. Plus also now has a Flame DOT on it too.
so every few seconds the Mob takes X amount of flame damage. becuase of the DOT that hit it!

That ends the lesson for today.
have a nice day.



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JangototheFort
Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:11 pm
#5

n?Ok thanks



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DarthShag
Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:13 pm
#6

n?

Forgot details on the AT-ST


http://swg.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?swgbeast=1191




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Galaian
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:29 pm
#7

noUsing the HPBC on an AT-ST isn't a great idea. It has heavy armor with special resists for energy weapons. Wait until after the patch that makes blast damage land for full effect, then try. With a damage sliced rocket launcher, it might be possible to kill them in one shot.



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Tamrael
Thu Sep 25, 2003 9:33 pm
#8

no

Hm... you're either calculating wrong, reading the health numbers wrong, or far more likely, your particle beam hit on a stat OTHER than health. It's far better to NOT calculate damage by finding out how much everything dropped, but rather looking at the number over the ATST's head.



My money's on you having done in the 900-1300 range of damage but most of that having hit on action or mind.




--Tamrael Megassi
Commando, Flurry Server
"I shall kill you..... with DEATH!" --Supervillian Rictus
maddogs
Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:12 am
#9

anya true good point tamrael u might have not noticed but it prploy did hit a diff part of the ham bar becous im a master comando and ill do this some times not often but burn 2 time and if ant ded ill shot 3 bpcs at it praying they will atlets hit and ive had one on a vere lucky ocastion do 2k dam to life thats after all is done and sed that is usly and hopfluy enogh to finizh it off



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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Bigjimmy1
Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:30 am
#10

no

Just stack flamecone2 and flamesingle2 and you take the at-st down about 1/4 life now,,so go kill it with


whatever you feel like,,it should only have around 5k life left



bigjimmy sunrunner,master commando


15 npc at-st


13 pvp at-st....yes all the imps hate me on this entire server...




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IPCDollar
Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:36 am
#11

no

I was looking over his shoulder at the time and in this case for certain the health pool was the only one affected and it took 143 dmg which (this would be an amazing coincidence if not a bug) was 3% of the shot vs. the 30% that was expected from a heavy AP weapon.


Both of us are baffled by this. So....how does anyone ever take these down, I mean with what weapons and tactics? Probably should be it's own thread.


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maddogs
Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:43 am
#12

no

ive soloed 20 of them wat i do is shoot cone2 then singel2 fen deth thats is if im lucky enuogh to fen death lol but after i get back up acors after there burn has stoped i do agen but this time he died hehe


\/ usly about 21k\/ usly about 10k


o ya npc atsts can have upto 25k life atleats thats wat ive seen player max iv seen is 18k npc atsts do more dam to so player atsts r alot esyer to kill one good burn if lucky can kill a player atst




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

DarthShag
Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:08 am
#13

no

I think i've posted this message in the wrong area. My entire point of this thread was to try and get an explanation of why the Heavy Particle Beam Cannon only hit for 3% damage instead of 30%.


I wasn't actually looking for help on how to solo an AT-ST (suicide) and you guys that posted to use /flamecone2 or /flamesingle2 didn't notice I only have /flamesingle1.




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