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Thread: Question for TKA or Fencing Comandos

shutout
Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:17 pm
#1

as long as you're holding a ranged weapon, melee opponents will have a very good chance of hitting you, whether your melee defense is at 125, or 0.


2 things will tip you off to this.


1) all those riflemen/tka/fencers are now dropping that template, as it won't let you walk around untouched anymore. they all seem to be going rifleman/cm now.


2) i've pvp'd with a my commando/tka right after the patch, before those FotM's dropped their templates. they'd run around shooting their rifles. my flamer was missing them, but as soon as i switched to vk's, instant win. kd stuck first time. dizzy stuck. unarmedhit3 never missed. lunges always worked. unarmedstun, never failed. unarmedheadhit, oh how i love that move now. so, if someone is shooting at you, go melee.




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teb311
Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:01 pm
#2

So basically, you don't use commando at all? Man, I wish we could compete as a stand alone profession...



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SkipMalone
Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:13 pm
#3

Ya that 2.5 vs ranged weapons is once again a total burden on commandos. If you dont have a melee prof. to back up your commando skills you are screwed. I find it best to try and hit them with a flame dot then switch to TK. Or start off TK and hit them with kd/dizzy then pull out the flamer and go to town. Either way... It was another dumb mistake to the devs for putting it back into the game. Now melee are running around ruling SWG.





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TechnoHic
Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:37 pm
#4

What I figure is Ill be kited by ranged opponents (no diferent than befor) and when fighting melee opponents now Ill be forced to use my fencer skills.


My big issue with it is where does my commando come into play for 169 points. I cant reach ranged professions and am forced to be in this increased chance of being beaten down royally by melee since we gotta be in melee range.


Its a situation much like the 2.5 damage modifier where it hurts us the worse with our range limitations only now it actually voids skills that you have picked up (melee defense) whereas there were no skills that the damage mod was voiding. Why bother giving ranged professions melee defense at all when you get hit every time with the max 125?


I am a die hard commando but there gets to a point to where Im looking at the skill dump and I realize that it isnt filling the role that it should as damage dealer or even a ranged profession. The only time it is a damage dealer is if I can kill with the first hit.


Well, much hope I have for the profession so lets hope the combat pass does the job.





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shutout
Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:58 pm
#5






teb311 wrote:
So basically, you don't use commando at all? Man, I wish we could compete as a stand alone profession...







no, i use my commando skill all the time. you'd be amazed how well it works on tkas. pistoleers and bounty hunters aren't too difficult either. but when someone has the ranged defense of a rifleman, they're pretty hard to hit with a flamer or little to no pistol skills with a launcher pistol. and don't even waste a consumable weapon on them. no, i just get up close and use my tka skills. lunge works from a distance, so you can usually change their posture with that to catch up to them. also, suppression fire works if you can get it to stick. then just burst run up to them, and use your melee skills.


yeah, i get kited. but i usually don't go overt to theed by myself. nor do i raid bases solo. i'll let the other ranged professions in my group handle them if need be. also, don't dismiss the raw power of the flamer on auto attack. it does some decent damage.




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Theedage
Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:06 pm
#6

Bogus title!!!!!

I call discrimination against commando/pikemen!!!!!



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TechnoHic
Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:39 am
#7

Ok I got TKA defenses but not for much longer as I work toward master fencer commando instead of TKA commando and I was wondering if anyone else with a melee professions defenses has felt this to-hit bonus against ranged weapon wielders?


It seems that having defenses at all and wielding the FT means nothing now from the little bit I saw as I got hit almost everytime, anyone else experience this?


I wouldnt mind at all if we actually had ranged attacks as I would just use the ranged attacks until they got to melee range then switch to fencing but unfortunately, we are forced to use the FT in melee range.



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SkipMalone
Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:40 am
#8

shutout wrote:


you'd be amazed how well it works on tkas. pistoleers and bounty hunters aren't too difficult either.

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Becuase BH get as crap defense as we do. Pistoleers dont have much in the ranged D category, but thier Dodge mod makes up for it.






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comandobob
Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:44 am
#9

Aye the auto attack on the flamer is quite good when you are charging you emeny down to get into melee range i very rearly use flame single2 as it always misses except when they kd




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TechnoHic
Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:56 am
#10






Theedage wrote:
Bogus title!!!!!

I call discrimination against commando/pikemen!!!!!






lol, Just omitted them and heavy swordsman cause my thoughts were more on how the defenses were working for us when using our melee profession in combat compared to our commando weapons and those 2 dont seem to have a lot of defense.


Guess you could add them in on this though.




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