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Thread: Need Advice Commandos

B0B4F377
Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:34 pm
#1

Im thinking of picking up Commando but I only have enough SP to go novice, then Flame Specialization II. My question is would this be worth it. Just getting the Launcher pistol certification at Novice would be great. Does this weapon still use the speed and accuracy mods from pistol? Does it have AP? Is Blast Damage good? As for the Flame, Are the Dots powerful?Do Flame Single 1 and Flame Cone 1 Dots stack? Is Flame Single I damaging enough, or is this line not worth it unless I can get Single II? A friend has told me that all 4 dots (single I and II, cone I and II) stack with each other, is this true?


I appreciate any feedback that will help me make my decisions.


Thanks



Kalis~ Guardsman ~
B0B4F377
Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:24 pm
#2

Also, Does Torso Shot DOT and Flame Single I DOT stack with each other?



Kalis~ Guardsman ~
ryye
Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:30 pm
#3

- Launcher Pistol DOES use the pistol speed/accuracy mods

- Launcher Pistol has a Light AP

- Blast Damage is good

- Flame and Bleed DOTs got nerfed pretty badly, i'll leave it up to a current commando to say whether they're "good" still

- I'm not sure if all the flamer specials still stack, they used to

- FlameSingle1 and TorsoShot DOTs do stack



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HardcoreHick
Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:47 pm
#4

yes, the fire DOT works great, took out a whole base of rebel npc's and players solo, i might of just been lucky, but that DOTgot me through it



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B0B4F377
Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:03 pm
#5






HardcoreHick wrote:
yes, the fire DOT works great, took out a whole base of rebel npc's and players solo, i might of just been lucky, but that DOTgot me through it






Is that flame single I DOT? if so thats good news! thanks



Kalis~ Guardsman ~
HardcoreHick
Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:07 pm
#6

flamesinlge1+flamecone1


flamecone1 has an area affect, more fire to go around






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peer
Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:33 pm
#7






ryye wrote:

- Launcher Pistol DOES use the pistol speed/accuracy mods

- Launcher Pistol has a Light AP

- Blast Damage is good

- Flame and Bleed DOTs got nerfed pretty badly, i'll leave it up to a current commando to say whether they're "good" still

- I'm not sure if all the flamer specials still stack, they used to

- FlameSingle1 and TorsoShot DOTs do stack







Launcher pistol doesn't have any AP actually (kinda funny, considering that you're shooting tiny rockets at your enemy... oh well)


The flamethrower specials no longer stack


the specials, IMHO, seem very unhelpful, but maybe that's just because I got used to their pre-nerf power.


Additionally, I'd say flamer isn't worth it unless you can get to at least flame 3, the accuracy at lower levels is just horrendous. You MIGHT hit creature MOBs often enough that it would be semi-worth it, but it's not too likely ( you have to consider the near 10 second wait between using a flame special and your next action... that hurts bad, especially if you miss)

altimit
Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:34 pm
#8

as far as i am aware, each player gets 1 flame, even if they have torso shot. BTW, the LP rocks, for taking down turrets and atsts, and thats about it.
B0B4F377
Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:22 pm
#9

id mostly be using the flame DOT on mobs anyway so for the most part it doesn't matter to me whether i can hit anyone in PvP



Kalis~ Guardsman ~
peer
Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:05 am
#10






B0B4F377 wrote:

Well, I picked up Commando and was trying out the specials and found that the DoT's DO stack. I did flame single I, flame cone I and Torso shot and I saw all 3 DoT's tick above the mobs head






When was this? Last I checked, we aren't stacking any longer. Maybe I just missed it though.
ryye
Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:10 am
#11

flamesinge1 and flamecone1 do stack (tried it last night), now i wonder if flamesingle2 and flamecone2 would stack on top of those giving you 4 fire DOTs......



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B0B4F377
Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:09 am
#12






peer wrote:





B0B4F377 wrote:

Well, I picked up Commando and was trying out the specials and found that the DoT's DO stack. I did flame single I, flame cone I and Torso shot and I saw all 3 DoT's tick above the mobs head






When was this? Last I checked, we aren't stacking any longer. Maybe I just missed it though.





To test it out i went to a mob and used flame single I on it. then i warning shot/peaced and watch the combat numbers above the mobs head. Every so often (about 7-8 seconds) I saw the DOT tick above the mobs head, it was about 1000 or so, maybe a little less. I went to next mob and did the same thing with Flame single I and flame cone I. This time i saw two dots tick per 7-8 seconds, Now obviously im assuming one was the single dot and one was the cone dot. So unless the Dev's did something stupid and messed up the combat numbers(ie. showing a dot ticking but not actually doing the damage) then I believe they stack. Everyone who siad they didn't, is this based on experimenting with it, or simply believing what was told to you by devs or other players?



Kalis~ Guardsman ~
B0B4F377
Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:30 pm
#13

Well, I picked up Commando and was trying out the specials and found that the DoT's DO stack. I did flame single I, flame cone I and Torso shot and I saw all 3 DoT's tick above the mobs head



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