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Thread: Commando... Your DOTS and how much do they tick for?

Anarchicgorilla
Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:26 pm
#1

I know Plasma Flame thrower does burn, but what does the lightning Beam cannon do?




And howare the DOTsdmg calculated? Is it a % of the damage you do (like torso shot)




Alsohow often do they tick, and for how long?



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Tequiero
Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:39 pm
#2

ask SOE.



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KraftyOne
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:31 am
#3

I haven't been a commando for long, but I came in expecting better DOTs.


The FT certainly works, and sticks reasonably often. The lightning beam cannon doesn't stick often enough to make it worth trying. I find I've lost my FT DOT by the time I get it to stick. And the DOTs from the grenades are completely worthless. I have no idea why they bothered to put in a 30 damage tick for 40 seconds.


As to the damage on the FT and LBC, i'm pretty sure it's random.





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ZabrakMale
Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:58 am
#4


i think the fire tics for around 300. it might depend on which ranged shot you use. im not sure if the full dot will stick using low dmg shots like root/kd.



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Anarchicgorilla
Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:40 am
#5


Thanks for all replies guys.



I will be a master commando soon..



I really think the dots are like most other dots for weapons (torso.. fencers bleed)


These go of a % of the damge you do..


Torso doed 8.4% of the damage you do


so if you have a base of 500 that is 500 x2.0 (for torso) = 1000 dmg and you bleed would be 8.4 % or84 bleed..



How this can be nasty.... if PFT does around 300... to me that sounds like 33% (which is fencer bleed)..


take that same dmg 1000 and you would do 330 dmg in ticks.. that would be on a shot that did 1000 dmg



Now do improved sniper shot 3.2 x 500 = 1600 dmg = a 528 pt tick


Now i have not tested this yet but everyone says theburn is random... meaning it not only on certain shots.



If you do kd the sniper and get the burn with sniper it will be nasty.



One of the nasty shoots I have seen is a awesome rifle with full critical slice... and it hit a critical on sniper shot... which is 20% more of the already high sniper shot



Also has anyone landed ticks with a LBC???


If so can you post what you do?



I am changing temps so it will be a while before I am a commando... but am interested in knowing.


Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-01-2005 11:42 AM



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yurylightmist
Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:02 pm
#6

pre cu dots owned. i miss thos ones
Kesslan
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:38 pm
#7

yeah dots really ment something pre-cu



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ZabrakMale
Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:02 pm
#8






Kesslan wrote:
yeah dots really ment something pre-cu





they still do, it takes mind to heal. if you have to heal 3 fire dots, a poison and keep up with the dmg from whatever specials you are being hit with, mind drops fast. not as fast as a 1k mind poison, but fast enough



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The_Marksman
Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:14 am
#9

Ive just done some missions and i was getting 250+ flame dots.



StarNick
Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:51 am
#10

It varies from around 200ish to just about 400ish, I haven't seen a DoT that has gone over 400 much or at all (for me, lower 300's and 396's are very common with a few 250's). How DoT's are calculated...I think only SoE knows, but from some data after fighting CL80 mobs, the total DoT damage *seems* to be roughly 20% of your total damage. It might be calculated with percentages, and possibly a hard cap...but I haven't looked at that yet.



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LittleChuck
Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:05 am
#11






Anarchicgorilla wrote:


Thanks for all replies guys.



I will be a master commando soon..



I really think the dots are like most other dots for weapons (torso.. fencers bleed)


These go of a % of the damge you do..


Torso doed 8.4% of the damage you do


so if you have a base of 500 that is 500 x2.0 (for torso) = 1000 dmg and you bleed would be 8.4 % or84 bleed..



How this can be nasty.... if PFT does around 300... to me that sounds like 33% (which is fencer bleed)..


take that same dmg 1000 and you would do 330 dmg in ticks.. that would be on a shot that did 1000 dmg



Now do improved sniper shot 3.2 x 500 = 1600 dmg = a 528 pt tick


Now i have not tested this yet but everyone says theburn is random... meaning it not only on certain shots.



If you do kd the sniper and get the burn with sniper it will be nasty.



One of the nasty shoots I have seen is a awesome rifle with full critical slice... and it hit a critical on sniper shot... which is 20% more of the already high sniper shot



Also has anyone landed ticks with a LBC???


If so can you post what you do?



I am changing temps so it will be a while before I am a commando... but am interested in knowing.



Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-01-2005 11:42 AM





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OsloisAwomaow
Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:30 am
#12

You know how SOE made it so that the fire DOT wouldn't incap NPC's?


They made it so it cant be the final blow. If your target has 2 health left, and the DOT ticks, it does 1 damage. I've tested.





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StarNick
Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:09 am
#13

Thats where the old "night of the living dead" bug cropped up from. DoTs were incapping NPCs (were they previously killed) when they shouldn't have been, so all the states affecting them got wiped and you had to rekill em. Sometimes it got so bad where you had to do it multiple times (my record was 4 or 5), or if it happens to a mob like Necrosis...it once got my group killed!

Btw I dueled a CM-Carbineer today, I beat him (mainly because he was concentrating on the CM DoTs, and healing...not damage - wouldve been tougher), but what sorta irked me was their Fire DoT not only seems to stick better (I never got one to stick on him), but it stayed with me until several minutes after combat ended...

Mind you, it only ticked for 269, where as ours can go up to almost 400...but yesh, you'd think a profession that is suppoused to be "utility" - our utility would stick better



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