Commando Archive
Thread: Why i wont leave commando
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inlord
Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:22 am
#1
Ok ok ok we get it Commando is broke and we have been waiting for it for a long time, to long and i have my self thought of leaving MC but I have not waited this long for nothing ,i hope you all dont leave. I already am one of few left on my server and i see are numbers declining fast. This new Dot sticking thing too his not helpn us out at all, Weapons TIme dealy Switch . bah i know we can make it to the CB , but if SOE fails to Respond to are needs I feal that me and 99% of other True commandos will leave SWG . Thats my Two sents i had to vent it.
wolfgang74
Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:19 am
#2
I know i'm not dropping commando, I've waited for over a year now for commando to be worth the points. Just keep paying your $15 bucks to play beta for another 6+ months. Thenlog in, sit and chat for a hour or so ,and logoff likeeveryone else 
TKA-MC
Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:58 am
#3
I hear ya fellas. When I first started playing my goal was to be a Master Commando. Once I made it and realized it was broken I didn't care, provided that we get a fix.....ever, I will never drop Commando. Which breaks down to this, like you said, if we don't receive any kind of lovin/fixes then I will drop the game. Simply said "you are right" I to have noticed very few commando's running about, instead of Jedi being (used to be) the rarest profession in the game, Commando is sinking into extinction.
Dysinn Rahl (Gorath) Master Commando/TKM
"This is my BOOM STICK"
Kyra_Jien
Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:12 pm
#4
I am picking up rifle so I can at least do something in PVP till we get fixed. I am not dropping Commando till I see the combat revamp. If they fook that up then I'm done.
Logitition
Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:42 pm
#5
I used to be a commando.. It is broken. The devs will not help u any time soon... u will burn your jets too fast trying to play it in the current state.
The beauty of this game is that u can retool your template in a week with a little grinding. You have to look past the Professions and concentrate on a Template. I currently hold a master fencer/rifle these days and I will tell you this, Commando is in the HEART. I mean seriously.. lets look at it.
Most consider a commando a sec-ops unit, right? Assault rifles, grenades, hand to hand combat that could include a survival knife..
My template at the moment is M.rifle/M.fencer/Tka4300... What did I have when I was a master commando? A flamethrower and a rocket launcher.. I always called myself artillery and hated when they took the title..
I still run around in a commando title.. Heavy Infantry
...and well, I AM HEAVY INFANTRY.
Mostly I PvP , so I may be skewed but, commando will only bring u grief in it's current form, when they fix it.. I will go back.
Untill then I need tools that work.
RP and build your OWN commando template.. I mean c'mon.. I can use a survival knife with deadly accuracy.. a vibroblade in a pinch.. tout around a Disruptor assault rifle with AP2 and ACID..can beat on things with my fists if I need be.. and defence.. hell.. I am a ninja compared to the way they have done the beloved commando..
drop it. u can get it back in 2 weeks if u take your time.. in the meantime pick up tools that work and u will be amazed at the fun that pops up to your fingertips..
I remember when I completed my first retool.. I was scared to work so hard and lose it, I was gonna hold on to that MC till the end. Which was almost 5 months ago or more. I figured all I did was hang out and chat, the war was taken from me, I had to hope I could get in a good group and try to snipe or camikaze cone runs..
I decided, hell why not just see how the other half lived. I did the cals, ran the numbers, found what I wanted to do and then sculpted skills around it..
It was like taking blinders off.. before I had to use every trick and tactic I could (which taught me well), with the right tools it became to where I started winning ALOT more .. just the defence itself made a huge difference..
Save yourselfs and have FUN.. this is not the moral stand to make, u will only rob yourselves of time..
Oh well.. once again I tried.. see u guys in another month..
Neo Comando of the new Age
-The same cat that spoke of Heavy weapons when they called me crazy (before 80%/40% compo)
inlord
Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:34 pm
#6
Logitition wrote:
I used to be a commando.. It is broken. The devs will not help u any time soon... u will burn your jets too fast trying to play it in the current state.
The beauty of this game is that u can retool your template in a week with a little grinding. You have to look past the Professions and concentrate on a Template. I currently hold a master fencer/rifle these days and I will tell you this, Commando is in the HEART. I mean seriously.. lets look at it.
Most consider a commando a sec-ops unit, right? Assault rifles, grenades, hand to hand combat that could include a survival knife..
My template at the moment is M.rifle/M.fencer/Tka4300... What did I have when I was a master commando? A flamethrower and a rocket launcher.. I always called myself artillery and hated when they took the title..
I still run around in a commando title.. Heavy Infantry
...and well, I AM HEAVY INFANTRY.
Mostly I PvP , so I may be skewed but, commando will only bring u grief in it's current form, when they fix it.. I will go back.
Untill then I need tools that work.
RP and build your OWN commando template.. I mean c'mon.. I can use a survival knife with deadly accuracy.. a vibroblade in a pinch.. tout around a Disruptor assault rifle with AP2 and ACID..can beat on things with my fists if I need be.. and defence.. hell.. I am a ninja compared to the way they have done the beloved commando..
drop it. u can get it back in 2 weeks if u take your time.. in the meantime pick up tools that work and u will be amazed at the fun that pops up to your fingertips..
I remember when I completed my first retool.. I was scared to work so hard and lose it, I was gonna hold on to that MC till the end. Which was almost 5 months ago or more. I figured all I did was hang out and chat, the war was taken from me, I had to hope I could get in a good group and try to snipe or camikaze cone runs..
I decided, hell why not just see how the other half lived. I did the cals, ran the numbers, found what I wanted to do and then sculpted skills around it..
It was like taking blinders off.. before I had to use every trick and tactic I could (which taught me well), with the right tools it became to where I started winning ALOT more .. just the defence itself made a huge difference..
Save yourselfs and have FUN.. this is not the moral stand to make, u will only rob yourselves of time..
Oh well.. once again I tried.. see u guys in another month..
Neo Comando of the new Age
-The same cat that spoke of Heavy weapons when they called me crazy (before 80%/40% compo)
inlord
Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:43 pm
#7
Alli can say about the post above is that people that realy are Commandos at heart wont drop , you can PVP all day with all your Uber Dots Stun batons and Mind shots with your Damn Jawa, I dont see how you can have fun playn pvp when its broke .I my self did fencer , riflemen .. and yes it does rule in pvp im not going to flame you on that , just sayn this Post was to boost moral not down play it with you talk about how we need to drop MC and go to PVP Templet . I realy dont see how you have any Say in what we should do since you have not been in the MC pro in 5months alot as changed for the worse, but i do see a light at the end of the Tunnel . Its not about the grind or being scared to lose my xp its about My title and Even tho im not all powerfull like we use to be i Still get respect from Most Players.I know you miss the flame thats why you came here to do it.
Logitition
Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:15 pm
#8
When u drop because u have nothing to do.. look up this post.. morale? u are kidding right? This is not for the sake of humanity or a war against the devs..
This is a GAME. The devs messed up.. u cannot stick to something because u WANT it to be good.. U have to go with what WORKS. The only thing u stick around in commando for is an antiquated way of thinking that was brought with the rest of the baggage from the previous MMo's.. here, u can be more cause u can dabble and mix prof's to create unique templates..
Put it this way.. as I shown, my template has more of a commando feel then this current profession.. what do u stick around for.. the title of commando? U can have it.. I am a commando in every sense of the word.. on the field, I will HURT u.. why? .. because I have TOOLS THAT WORK.. Stick with it, quit from frustration.. your choice.. there is a higher burnout rate with those who fail to see the working prof's .. oh well.. I tried.
look at the status of my Board rank.. been here a while...
TatooinainWarrior
Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:17 pm
#9
Giving up Master Commando for me is like the biggest hardest thing i can do in this game... and yet from all corners, we are being attacked... by this i mean all them nerfs and turning a blind eye to us by the devs.
Look i want to PVP and i want to do it as a commando... it that so much to ask? I used to have fun PVE, but now that is even harder too, plus you can only kill so many rancors or janta's or (your fav hunt enemy).. until you want to fight someone with a brain.
So i said to my self (i'll take two days a week to make money for armor and weapons) and do some PVP's
I mean i know i'm gona die.. we all know i'm gona die... but i at least want to help my guild buddies or maybe some guys from same faction.. you see all i can do is work as support and hope to stay alive long enough to help.
But it's no fair that as a master commando.. i'm the weakest in a group with non masters.
Even a novice pikeman can take me out (altho he never said what his skill tree looked like)
The thing is, i wouldn't mind so much if ppl didn't take the piss out of us, and even call us n00bs for taking up commando.
The other day I was helping a TKM and a TKA at 3333 i think in a few PVP fights... we got attacked by 4 imps, (the usual lot, rifles, fencer, TKM Pikeman) i think one was also a doc.
While they mowed down my mates, i was able to (out of 4 flamecone2's) land one burn.. which lasted only once as it was fix by there doc.
So i pulled back a bit and let a few greandes go... well my HAM took a beating and i missed them all.. by this time mates are dead and 4 imps are on me as i try and run and catch them with maybe a last burn DoT from flamecone2... but no, i'm soon dead.. and the imps are laughing at me for coming to PVP as a Commando.
I mean it don't help that the other proffs don't even care about us, they are having so much fun, and think the only way to PVP is to make a uber template.. well i'm sorry to see the game in this way.
I didn't want priases but, to be called a newbie and a fool for taking commando JUST adds to the whole thing.. I mean they don't even think that maybe, just maybe, i'm being a bit brave by taking my commando into battle, known full well we are weak, NO skin of their teeth right? well now i think this is how the devs think.. no skin off their teeth, not many commandos play anyway, so what if they are not happy.. everyone else is... hmmm this almost sounds like discrimination (NO?)
As long as other players that are not commando don't speak out for us too, then we have no hope.
nbd9k
Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:41 am
#10
heres the thing. ive got massive support for commandoism. it was my first and only choice of profession, and i was shattered when i found how truely weak a commando is. but ive stayed with it in the hope of the combat rebalance being everything it is promised to be.
however, recently, problems have come to my attention. the SWG staff arent interested in really fixing professions, least of all, ours. they dont actually care about retention. theyre not interested in keeping their recurring players happy, theyre only interested in attracting new players for a month or two. hence the new patches that focus on lame crap like bounty hunter armor, or producing more jedi. think about the stats for a second. every player is shelling his 15$ a month, plus the newbies who purchace the game out of some kind of interest. the whole thing is a cash cow. millions of dollars going in. but nothing comes out. they do two patches a month, if we're lucky. and those arent even great patches. the last good one they really did was the corvette. we see no new servers. we see no new planets, we see no new support, and most of all, we see no new changes in the commando profession. NOTHING.
So. i paid my cash for a year. i thought i would be playing a lot more. not anymore. now, i check my mail once a week nad put money in my house. and ill keep doing that until the combat rebalance comes out.
the combat rebalance is supposed to be the be all end all fixer for the commando profession. i urge you all:
If they dont make good on any part of what they've said, close out your accounts and take your friends with you. maybe then theyll start to understand that its the returning players that are important, not only attracting newbies.
harvard ferrier
bria server
master commando, master tk.
LuciusScipio
Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:04 am
#11
I hate to say this but after reading this board, thoughts of dropping master commando have begun toset in. Nothing against anyone but this is depressing. I'm currently thinking of what secondary profession I WOULD HAVE FUN playing, instead of having a secondary profession just so that I can survive against the really tough NPC mobs and/or PVP'ers. Commando takes so many skill points to acquire that's it's sad that we still need todabble or master another profession(s) just so that we can survive. It sucks when a Rifle Master, Master Swordsman or TKMcan outdamage us in PVEand PVP, but only spend a fraction of the skill points that we spent to master our profession.
Logitition
Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:42 am
#12
That is ALL I am trying to say.
Drop the prof fer a few.. the fun will come back quickly. I am trying to save my fellow commando's is all..
I was there, I used to sit around chatting cause I got tired of Pve and PvP was not an option.. I know u have yer hearts in it, I know u want to PvP as Commando..
Untill they fix it it is like trying to pvp with architect or smuggler without pistoleer.. With my template I bring a 90% power ratio to the table whenever I saddle up, a master commando brings 30% power.. They are gimped at the moment.. U are playing a BROKEN profession and wondering why u are not having fun.
U CAN GET IT BACK IN 1-2 weeks.. U know the ropes, the spawn spots.. shelve those weapons and begin to live. DO NOT LEAVE THE GAME. There is a whole galaxy out there and once u see the other side and the way they live u will thank me..
Right now onm the field the only thing about Commando is that they have a couple good titles.. keep the one u want and NEVER change it.. the bug will keep it above yer name.. its not like they can do any damage.. and that is just plain sad..
They will fix it tho, I am sure, but the way it looks it is going to be about3-4 months before it even is workable, and then they will probably still be on the weak side.. Odds are, A rifleman will still punk them easy..
Do not let SOE make u hang yourself.. U really want to be a commando? Build a template that IS a commando, not a flamethrower private... U want grenades? C12 can be used by anyone with the same accuracy your master gives u.. Go rifle.. get the Assault 'disruptor' rifle.. u will feel more like a soldier and a commando with it in your hand.
The first timre u engage with the new template u will stand in awe at how, when things work, fun is produced.. U may even be able to wade into the middle and show what the heart of a commando can do.
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