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Thread: 2.5 damage still happens

Skeptic666
Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:02 pm
#1

I thought i heard a rumor that they chagned it for us but I tested it today. With no wep my friend was doing 40-50 damage when I equiped my FT I was getting 150-233 points of damage from his unarmed.


FYI



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SkipMalone
Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:01 am
#2

ya... it blows.






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RazerWolf
Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:15 am
#3

You do know that you get Unarmed Toughness from the Unarmed tree that you all do, and thus you take LESS damage from melee when you are unarmed, as opposed to having a FT equipped, right?



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Skeptic666
Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:26 am
#4

yup



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Wolfmann31
Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:17 am
#5

Unarmed thoughness from the unarmed tree, is not that powerfull, that it can take 100 points off a unarmed attack.

More like 15-20..I think.




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JerrackMenip
Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:00 pm
#6

Does this damage multiplier count against other melee weapons? Will someone totally jack me with a stun baton or a power hammer multiplier effect? Or is it just unarmed... and does it also work with VK's? Is it only the FT or does the HAR have the same 'penalty?'




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El_Oso_pardo
Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:10 pm
#7

all heavy weapons, FT, HAR, LLC, have a 2.5x modifier to ALL melee weapons and damage



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Hellshot
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:13 am
#8

This is rumor control. Melee opponents have a 2.5x chance of hitting you with a ranged weapon equipped. The 2.5x damage modifier was removed a while back.



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Skeptic666
Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:24 am
#9

then you go up to a friend and have htem hit you with nothign in your hand then equip your FT its a better chance of hitting you hard i take twice as much damage. Check it out your self



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natemacc01
Mon Apr 26, 2004 7:40 pm
#10

Did you try equiping another weapon such as a pistol that does not take the supposed 2.5 damage multiplier? I did a test exactly like this but I also equipped an FWG5, T21, a DH17 carbine, and a flamethrower. I noticed no damage difference between the ranged weapons. I too noticed a difference when I was unarmed but like was posted above I believe that it is due to the damage reduction granted from the unarmed 1-4. I did this test about 3 weeks ago just after the last big publish.



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Teigen
Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:23 pm
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Skeptic666 wrote:
I thought i heard a rumor that they chagned it for us but I tested it today. With no wep my friend was doing 40-50 damage when I equiped my FT I was getting 150-233 points of damage from his unarmed.


FYI






How much unarmed skill do you have? If you only have unarmed IV from the brawler tree then theese numbers might indicate a 2.5x multiplier. But if you are a TKM/Commando or at least deep into the TKA profession then you have 57% damage reduction from your unarmed toughness and melee mitigation 2 or 3, and those two combined could probably account for the difference in damage that you are experiencing.


Try doing the same test but use a melee weapon you have no skill in, like a sword or a pike of some sort.

Skeptic666
Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:18 am
#12

aaa ok so you just lose all your melee mitigation and stuff when you have a wepon in your hand??? If so you should lose your ranged mitigation and stuff when you take down your wepons. Must be the Tka stuff huh?



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Skeptic666
Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:24 am
#13

Heheh ok so this must be how it works. COmmando Ranged stuff sticks no matter what you have in your hands. The TKa stuff is only for unarmed. So if you have TKA and you have wepon you take more damage then you think you should. I think im just dumb hehe



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