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Thread: So... I want some F#$&KING BOOTS!

Niskossk
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:28 pm
#1

Alright, wooks got their ass-kicking suit, and it's even got horns - HORNS! - hell, even tentacle-heads can wear helmets without any trouble... What about my poor trandoshan commando who can't wear boots or gloves (man, my claws'll freeze off if it ever gets cold - what then?) or, as I've been told, RIS hemlets? Is there anything special coming down the pipe some day for us lizard-guys? Hell, I'd wear bunny boots if they offered some protection - I've got a pair in the closet I'm sure I could modify for big green scaley lizard feet with big sharpclaws on 'em. I don't give a 'HAR' (haha get it?That's funny, see...?)about the melee damage, you can cut my punches down to the level of a feather's weight when I'm wearing the stuff, I just don't want my poor extremities freezing off whenthe snow comes - and it *WILL* come! I can feel it in my bones!
CE_SoLiD
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:20 pm
#2

No.



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StarNick
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:31 pm
#3

Wrong forum mate...go voice this in the Core Systems forum - a quick scroll to the bottom of the professions catagory.



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Niskossk
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:47 pm
#4

yeah, I posted it here partially because there's been discussion about armor here a bunch recently, and... well... because I couldn't figure out where else to post it (bottom of the professions list is the ONE place I did *not* look)
birdinga
Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:23 am
#5

Yeah it would be cool to see some different armors for specific classes and races, and fool coverage armor for allraces but with theWook/Trando stat bonusesI guess thats the price we have to pay and i'll live with it. My question is though, why canWook Jedi wearboots (and im guessing Trando Jedi can also) but normal Wookscan't?


Just to let you know us wooks are in the same boat as far as armor coverage as you Trandos are. The Hunting Armor doesn't cover our feet or hands, it looks like our hands are covered but they are not



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birdinga
Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:25 am
#6

Also I forgot to add, I shudder every time I see myself in that nasty looking Hunting Armor, that stuff is just ugly. I can only bring myself to wear it while fighting its just to painful to have someone see me in it any other time



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Grakis
Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:14 am
#7

Excuse me? Trandoshan stat bonuses? Are you on freaking crack? Our quickness and stamina max out at 450/400. I don't know what you think a bonus is, but considering most weapon specials chew up action (except our beloved flamethrower. thats one of the reasons I'm staying a commando), thats a pretty big handicap. And while our strength/constitution minimize at 600/700, that isn't a bonus, that just means we can't put those points anywhere else.


My stats go as follows:


Health: 650

Strength: 600 (min)

Constitution: 700 (min)


Action: 650

Quickness: 450 (max)

Stamina: 400 (max)


Mind: 1000 (max)

Focus: 500 (max)

Willpower: 600 (max)



Does that look like it has any bonuses over other races to you?


(and don't you even dare to bring up regeneration. that only adds to constitution. its a joke)
birdinga
Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:24 am
#8

Hey Grakis I know Trando secondaries suck but the stat bonus I was talking about was the total number of points we have to put in our ham bars. Most races have 5400 total HAM, Trandos have a total of 5800 HAM, and Wookies have a total of 6100 HAM. I don't want to get you all upset over this but Trandos do have a stat bonus just terrible caps on what you can do with it. Wookies have similar problems although they are on a much smaller scale Wooks secondaries max-min as follows;


Str 650-850

Con 450-550


Qui 400-550

Sta 400-500


Foc 450-650

Wil 400-600


So





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Hellshot
Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:28 am
#9

OK, the thoughts being discussed in this thread are good and all, but it should really be in the core systems thread, where the appropriate devs and correspondenents can read and respond to it. No offense to anyone involved in the disscussion.



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birdinga
Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:38 am
#10


Hey Grakis I know Trando secondaries suck but the stat bonus I was talking about was the total number of points we have to put in our ham bars. Most races have 5400 total HAM, Trandos have a total of 5800 HAM, and Wookies have a total of 6100 HAM. I don't want to get you all upset over this but Trandos do have a stat bonus, just terrible caps on what you can do with it. Wookies have similar problems although they are on a much smaller scale Wooks secondaries max-min as follows;


Str 650-850

Con 450-550


Qui 400-550

Sta 400-500


Foc 450-650

Wil 400-600


Look at the max values for our secondaries, just from the Star Wars Version of reality this is wrong. The strongest Wook is never going to be close to the Strongest Human, and Wooks are supposed to be arm-ripping beasts. I know you Trandos have even worse secondary cap values, but I am aware you have problems and would love to see them addressed.


So us Wooks have some similar problems although not as extreme as the Trando action secondaries. I think it is pretty lame that our chosen races get all those points but get a lot of them stuck where they are not needed or wanted. I guess thats more of the devs way to balance out the bonus we get. Do I totally agree with it? No, but I have to live with it. So I wasn't saying "You Trandos are sooo uber with all those extra stats, stop complaing you dont have armor"I heard these arguements many times being a Wookiee and I know how weak of an arguement that is. I was basically just trying to say us Trandos and Wooks are in similar boats here.


So yes Grakis, the stat caps suck, and I would love to see them changed. Just about every race would love to be able to move our stats around as freely as Humans can but at this time we just can't do it. This isn't a flame, just stating my opinion.




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morlock
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:04 pm
#11

Even though this may not be the right forum, I really have to add my $0.02 that trandoshans need some racial armor. Have you seen the JTL screen of a trandoshan wearing mandy armor? The helmet is the coolest part of that stuff; same for RIS. But we trandoshans can't wear the helms. *cry*

I don't care so much about being allow to wear helmets (though anything a twilek can wear, we should be able to as well!) so much as I care about having some good looking armor for trandoshans. Composite looks pretty bad on a trandoshan, but at least we can wear the helms. The problem is really that because of the gloves/boots/helms restrictions, trandoshans pretty much look dumb in any armor they get at this point. I wish the devs would add a suit like Bossk's (sp?) from ESB.



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birdinga
Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:46 am
#12

Ok, it's me yet again....so I just looked at the stat migration friday feature thingy and saw that Trandos only get 150 extra HAM points not 400 extra. Don't know why i thought they got 400 extra points, but I now see just how bad you Trandos have it. Your stat migration caps are horrible you can't wear a full suit of armor, and your only bonus is 150 extra HAM points?!?! Something isn't right about that.


I say you Trandos should be able to wear a full suit of armor, and I think i'll go make a post about it in the Core Systmes forum to make up for my previous post


But that will wait till I get home from work, cause it's time for me to head home


/burstrun *Pokk runs home*



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Grakis
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:26 am
#13

Are you sure we can't wear Mandalorian helms? Because we can wear BH armor helmets, and since thats a core component, I would think it would translate. <shrug>
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