Commando Archive
Thread: Some hope for commandos
I have read alot of negative on commando, and there is alot, lol.
But...
I started commando 2 days ago even though I have been reading the this forum. I could have been commando many weeks ago, but I heard it was buggy so put it off. I have been a rifleman for awhile now, and I find it dissappointing, even though i can head shot for 1600+ with a moderately good laser rifle. I see a pistoleer, bounty hunters, carbineers, well about every elite fighting profession can do more damage per second. So i checked out bonuses to weapon uses and statistically bounty hunter, pistoleer, and commandos seem to have the best. Now i am a commando.
In 2 days i have done about 75k in hw exp, including running all over the galaxy to find a flame thrower and grenades. I don't think that is ultra bad, not good compared to my exp as a rifleman, but i can tolerate that till they patch. Hrmm, i should say i did about 50k of that exp today.
FLAME THROWER -- use it! I know the range mods, but work around them. It can miss alot sometiems, but then it can hit alot as well. I try to stand anywhere from 40m to 49m from my target, that will get me down to -7 to -27 to range modifier, and i will hit more than i miss by far. Also use kneel when u can, i have seen a positive to my range modifier by doing so. Going prone seems to be very bad, u will keep a -50 to hit with hw's in the prone.
GRENADES -- find someone that will make good grenades with a power-up on them!! Frag grenades can be crafted to have over 300 damage crafted right, add the power up and it will go over 400(this is at this current time, maybe better grenades later). I haven't used them enough to figure out the most effective range, but u can hit beyond range 0. Grenades are area effect and will damage more then one mob, so to get high combat exp from grenades u will need to hit multiple targets or u will get the 1 exp or 10-30 combat exp for the grenade. I threw 6 grenades at 3 or 4 tortons i was fighting and at the end of the battle i got over 700 COMBAT EXP!! I was hitting all the mobs, and yes u can throw into a group of mobs and hit some but miss the others. I bought about 70 grenades as well and sometimes I kill the mob with only grenades, but i notice i get real high exp if I use grenades on a group of creatures than one single creature.
TANK -- to get good commando exp right now u will need a tank. I have pets that tank for me so it has not been to devasting to be commando. If i didn't have a tank, i would have alot less hw exp for sure.
So the class needs alot of work, but if you are commando u can make it work till it gets better. I think that once they fix commando, we will be one of the highest damaging, if not the highest. I have a heavy acid launcher(can't use cause i don't have the skill yet), but its max damage is 690! I haven't seen any other weapon have that much max damage, match that with one of the weapon skills and that damage is going to sky rocket.
Oh, and make sure to slice your flame thrower, I know u can't control what gets sliced, but I would want speed over damage.
My server is Eclipse.
Good luck commandos and I hope this helps some of you.
(If you have any helpful tips not mentioned, plz post)
"GRENADES -- find someone that will make good grenades with a power-up on them!! Frag grenades can be crafted to have over 300 damage crafted right, add the power up and it will go over 400(this is at this current time, maybe better grenades later). I haven't used them enough to figure out the most effective range, but u can hit beyond range 0. Grenades are area effect and will damage more then one mob, so to get high combat exp from grenades u will need to hit multiple targets or u will get the 1 exp or 10-30 combat exp for the grenade. I threw 6 grenades at 3 or 4 tortons i was fighting and at the end of the battle i got over 700 COMBAT EXP!! I was hitting all the mobs, and yes u can throw into a group of mobs and hit some but miss the others. I bought about 70 grenades as well and sometimes I kill the mob with only grenades, but i notice i get real high exp if I use grenades on a group of creatures than one single creature."
Big whoop 400 dmg ohh ah whoopy. You know my launcher pistol does that. So why would I want to use grenades other than to get that bit extra cm. They are slow and actually lower your dps because of the funky round time they got. They got a sucky hit percentage unless your right on top of the things which then you smack the hell out of yourself for double damage. You know all the things work provding you can heal, your got a ch for a tank pet and got tons of time sitting like some gimp with the flamethrower someone has the balls to actually call a weapon. Ya you can make it work but frankly Im tired of that lame ass gimpy route.
i tested alot of ranges with my weapons vs non agro mobs. my launcher pistol is around -3 to -4 no matter what range. the flamer on the other hand is poor at close range... and gets better the farther away you get. so if ya plan on getting any exp get in a group with a good flamer and kneel at around 40 paces back and open up..
its true the goober bh up front will out damage and get more exp. but so what. try killing harder stuff. if your group kills stuff in 10 seconds dont bother trying to get exp.. it never happen.. go to a tuffer planet and fight stuff that takes 30 sec to a min to kill.. thats where you will shine.. the bh will be half dead using specials.. and you be full health with your teeth all pearly white. assuming the doc is tired of healing the goober bh.
but the most important thing to remeber is our hit ratio blows. go after weapons that have thier sccurcy modified.. dont settle for a sooped up damage gun that will never hit. i always find its easier to eliminate a weakness then to power up a strength. being well rounded always works.
Kithh kannon (eclipse)
certified user of particle beam cannons
gunsmith and expert weaponsmith
I appreciate your enthusiasm, when I first got Commando I was excited. I knew there were problems, but I had faith.
The devs have killed any faith that I had. I seemed like the only way that I could get decent xp with the flamethrower was to put a bleed on tabage/jax like creatures with my pistol, then run around blasting them with my flamethrower till they were dead. It took a long time, but I was getting similar xp as when using my rifle or pistol on normal mobs.
They nerfed that...
Then there were malklocs on Dathomir. Not as slow, but you could still stay ahead of them.
The nerfed that...
Now I'm killing durni's, just waiting for them to say that "It's way too easy to kill durni's with the flamethrower"
This sucks so bad I cant even describe it. As I seem to find myself playing DAoC more and more again, I seem to care less and less about this crappy little game that has nothing at all to do with Star Wars as I would imagine it.
Good Luck and I really do hope that SOE trys to begin to satisfy their customers, but like I said, I have lost faith.
Buzzy
I said it once and I'll say it again
4 out of 10 hits with a flamethrower is pretty good....if you're going up against butterflies on Corellia.
Hi again...
Responding to the negative grenade people:
I forgot to post the speed of the grenades, my frag grenades are .6 speed and over 400 damage. I never said they are awesome. I was stating that you can get exp as commando. I want to know when you have ever got over 700 combat exp in one batte? If that is only a little combat exp then I want to know what you are doing to get more. Combat exp can be used for any profession and you don't see the point of using it? If not, whatever.
Keep in mind that the frag grenade is the bottom of the line in grenades, I wonder how good Imperial detonators will be if well crafted.
My entire post is about how to get hw exp for those that are having trouble with getting hw exp. It has nothing to do about how broke they are or how good they may turn out to be. If your trying to stick with being a gimped commando and having trouble getting hw exp, then try some of my suggestions.
Btw if you can't stand Ch players fine, get a probot to tank for ya. If you don't have a pet, bot, orplayer/playersto tank for ya you will gain hw exp very slowly.