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If not then i dont see the point to using the flame thrower or acid rifle, i mean 15 seconds? youll be dead, can someone explain this better to me please without flames?

Short answer, yes. Specials fire quicker as you get better.

Long answer.

Okay. After doing lots of reading and thanks to the pistoleers, the equation for speed and specials has been found.

First you take the speed listed on the gun. Let's go with what's on the test server.

384-802 dmg speed 5.3

Next come speed modifiers based on skill.

The problem here as Novice Commando we have 0.

At Flame 1 we get our first special Flamesingle1. Our speed is +10. At Flame 4 its +45.

Flame1 speed .9 X 5.3 = 4.8
Flame4 speed .55 X 5.3 = 2.9

Second there is a speed modifier for specials. It gets computed like this.

(Skill modded speed X Speed mod of special) Minus [(Skill modded speed X Speed mod of special) X (Skill Modded Speed / 100)]

At best guess Flamesingle1 has a speed mod of 3.25

Flamesingle1 at Flame 1 (4.8 X 3.25) - [ (4.8 X 3.25) X (4.8 / 100) ] = 14.9 seconds

Flamesingle at Flame 4 (2.9 x 3.25) - [ (2.9 x 3.25) x (2.9 / 100) ] = 9.2 seconds

Now I have no Idea what the damage multiplier is for the specials and I'm not about to start taking huge notes until we get patched. But that's the formula. Enjoy.

so really the delay wont get any better then 9 seconds....that really blows man thanks for the help u do a great job on this board man keep it up

but really how am i gonna be able to hold myself against a mob lol

actually they are very useful, i havnt used an acid rifle but with my crappy flamethrower that is 54-223 i can quite often hit for over 1k damage with flamesingle 1 and flamecone 1 plus the dot, now think about what ill be able to do with the test center flamethrower. Also when you're in a group fighting multiple targets you can use flamecone to give everything you are fighitng good damage and dots, or if you are kiting several things that are slower than you.

Yeah. I would hazard a guess that we have at least 4x damage multiplier.

What that means spamming flamesingle1 equals

1536-3208 dmg speed 9.2

That's not taking into account flamesingle2 which should have an even higher damage multiplier.

I'm not going to speculate since what's on test hasn't been release yet. You can rely on me on the day we get upgrades that I'll start crunching some numbers for you guys

There is something I would like to add that everyone is forgetting...skill tapes/armor attachments. I am sure somewhere out there you can fine +flame/acid speed tapes. However, I am not sure if they fall under the tapes I have been collecting: Heavy Weapons speed modifers. Currently I haven't tested them as I've been a little busy IRL the past week, but it is worth looking at. My guess is that HW speed applies either to the 'cannons' or all heavies, one or the other. If it is the latter, it will be interesting if you get +40 or more total on you, since that is essentially double the speed of a Flamethrower 4 commando. So far I have about +12 total, but its mixed with armor/clothing tapes so I'm going to keep looking and make a commando suit later.

Also, I would like to know if anyone has found +terrain negotiation tapes, since that would save lots of commandos out there at least 17 skill points. Something for advance/master commandos to look for.

-Maabus-

Leviasquall Killer By Day, Midnight Vir Vur Killer by Night

i have indeed seen terrain negiation tapes out there, they were only +1 but its a start you only need to get to 20 to have normal speed on slopes.

I have personally come across +5 terrian tapes. I would also like to know if the Heavy Weapon Speed armour/ clothing tapes make a difference on ALL our guns or just the expendables. If anyone has any info on this please post it.

Sadly none of the stat items work yet.

How do I know? Train novice medic. Put on +48 medic use gear. Try to use a stim D medic use skill 40.

You can't.

Yes, it blows.

Blows a fat one...

also i dont know what server u guys are all on but on ecllipse,loot is non existant

Yes, the reports of most skill tapes not working is another reason I haven held off. However, some DO work, mainly experimintation ones. Crafters I have given +'s say they are working. However, I can't claim they work from personal experience as I just stock up on them for now

-Maabus-

Wants a Proton Pack Instead of an Acid Rifle

"Don't Cross the Streams"

You guys are forgetting a big thing.,.

Slicing..

Having higher damage and higher delays is actually better..35% of 15spd is ALOT more of a decrease than 35% of a 2.5spd weapon.