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Thread: Flame thrower and faction points bug

Hellshot
Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:34 pm
#1

OK, so I hav been doing alot of stormtrooper missions since the last big patch, since they generarlly dont melee us. I noticed that if I light the group of 3 stormtroopers on fire and kill them, I get 15 fp + 1 for being a rebel. On the other hand if I light the same stormtroopers on fire, then switch to my lp or other weapons, I get 22fp +2 per storm trooper (doesn't matter if they burn to death or if I shoot them). I have also seen similar numbers with othernpc imps (17fp for medic with lp, 9 with a ft; 20 for compforce with lp, 14 with ft). Essentially, this amounts to a loss of 6 fp per stormtrooper times 3 stormtroopers per misssion times 2 missions per trip (36 per trip) if I keep my ft equipped after the initial attack. Is this a bug or an extra "feature" of workhorse weapon?



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Hellshot
Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:39 pm
#2

Ack, my math skills suck tonight. I lose 8 fp per stormtrooper, so 48 fp per trip.



Ancient weapons and hokey religions are no match for a rocket launcher in your backpack.

Lowca- Col Hoopo Gringo 0/0/2/0 Commando, 0/0/0/2 Fencer
Test Center - Ahab Crestingrunner Master Commando and stuff

First player to wear Mandalorian armor
FURY_Chaser
Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:54 pm
#3

hmmm...


have you tried killing the ST with only the LP and not flame them?


take a lower lvl mission and see i would but im at work


Hellshot
Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:02 pm
#4

I have killed st with my t-21 and get 22 fp. Icant recall how many I get using a hpbc, and cant test it till I get home in a few hours.



Ancient weapons and hokey religions are no match for a rocket launcher in your backpack.

Lowca- Col Hoopo Gringo 0/0/2/0 Commando, 0/0/0/2 Fencer
Test Center - Ahab Crestingrunner Master Commando and stuff

First player to wear Mandalorian armor
FURY_Chaser
Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:26 pm
#5

hmmm... does difficulty con effect FP given?


At FT 4 line your about = to master elite for diff con

Hellshot
Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:34 am
#6

/bump hoping for a Dev response



Ancient weapons and hokey religions are no match for a rocket launcher in your backpack.

Lowca- Col Hoopo Gringo 0/0/2/0 Commando, 0/0/0/2 Fencer
Test Center - Ahab Crestingrunner Master Commando and stuff

First player to wear Mandalorian armor
Biggdogg23
Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:19 pm
#7

I noticed the same things doing Imp missions myself. Stick with only flamer and get 9-15 per reb, switch and hit with launcher and its 15-20+.



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StarNick
Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:58 pm
#8

hmm maybe this is why you can loose in the 30's with a FT equiped in PvP..of course ive lost that much with pistols equiped...



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StrmCommando
Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:39 pm
#9

If you use a weapon that you are very skilled with you tend to get less XP and usually less FP. For example, the higher the con, the more the XP and Faction points. Specforce Troopers con blue to me with my flamethrower, and when I kill themI get about 15 FP, but when I switch to an overall weaker weapon like my launcher pistol, I get a little bit more FP. This is because the launcher pistol is a weaker weapon, making the battle I fought harder, the reward will be higher to make up for the difficulty.

maddogs
Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:03 pm
#10

ok guys i have done majer testing on this


1 the max fp u can get of any one kill is 26 (this inclueds atsts) not inclueding the reb fp bonuses with them 28


2 u get fp acording to the skill u have with the wep u have equiped when they die


3 so to get more fp do as follows


lets say u kill a st or a atst with a flamer equiped and ur lvl 4 with that wep u will get 15 (reb 16)fp same thing if u have vk equiped and ur at a high lvl with them or a pitole or any wep


but if ur a commando and u equip your lp ur skill with that wep is only pistol 4 from the marks men tree (providing that u haveint gone up in smuggler or any thing dealing with the pistol) u will get 22(reb24) fp


if u have no skill in a wep at all lets say a low lvle sowerd or nife dager and u equip this as they die (burn/bleed to death) u will get a nices 26(reb 28)fp


so this is how i did my missons


1i run up use flame cone 2 get them all burning (note aoe is buged if u do not hit them onec after u burn them u will not get any fp xp or loot ) [i have explained how aoe works right now in a post befor this some time back ]


2 target them and hit them all onec with ur pistole


3 equip a nife/dager or what ever u have no skill in useingand then....................... run like a chicken with ur hed cut off lol until they burn and when they burn to death u will get a woping 26(reb28) fp from them lol


i hope u understand what im saying if u have any question pm me




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StarNick
Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:05 pm
#11

Thats untrue with XP:


Im a Master Commando, with a Flamethrower i can get around 130 hvy weaps xp on a worrt, yet with a Dx2 or Fwg5 (im pistol tech III only) i get around 30-40 xp. The pistol is the weaker weapon, the flamethrower im more skilled at..however i get more xp with it. From my master gunfighter friend, this is also true to him (the xp i get with my pistol is the same he gets)


However, with certain weapons..it is true, like if the fight is more drawn out and is longer you'll get more xp...but thats for all weapons


Fp, im not sure but could be based on how much dmg/time it took for the battle




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maddogs
Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:18 pm
#12

oops did i say any thing about xp if i did i ment fp sory


as for xp heres what i no on that


yes pitol xp is lower then hw xp !!! hw xp right now is verey esy to get!!!!


the devs as i under stand sed they did that for one pach as a repayment for the long wait for commandos to get fixed


but in this last pach they were saposly to cut xp for wp by 1/3 but it never hapend.............................


thats all i know about this




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

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