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Thread: Flame damage should not kill

Saratoga
Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:31 am
#1

Recent fuss has led the DEVs to consider to limit the damage poison can do to the HAM bar to +1 HAM. To be fair across the board flame damage should be limited to +1 HAM and be reduced to same level of damage per time as poison (max is about 450 every 10 seconds) and no more than 100wound damage every 10 seconds. Commados should have to use a rifle, carbine, or pistol to incap a PC or creature. The HAM cost to use a flame special needs to be increased by 5x. A novice medic should be able to put the flames out. At 50% damagethe PC with the flame thrower should go in flames himself. There are plenty of war movies out there that show the guy with the flame thrower on fire after someone hit his pack.


Do I want this? NO! but you have got to stop crying nerf on CMs. We do less damage than you and our poisons and diseases are cureable. I don't cry when you send me runningin flames. War is hell


We need to nerf the DEs and chefs their stuff isn't broken enough.




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Sadius
Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:50 am
#2






Saratoga wrote:

Recent fuss has led the DEVs to consider to limit the damage poison can do to the HAM bar to +1 HAM. To be fair across the board flame damage should be limited to +1 HAM and be reduced to same level of damage per time as poison (max is about 450 every 10 seconds) and no more than 100wound damage every 10 seconds. Commados should have to use a rifle, carbine, or pistol to incap a PC or creature. The HAM cost to use a flame special needs to be increased by 5x. A novice medic should be able to put the flames out. At 50% damagethe PC with the flame thrower should go in flames himself. There are plenty of war movies out there that show the guy with the flame thrower on fire after someone hit his pack.


Do I want this? NO! but you have got to stop crying nerf on CMs. We do less damage than you and our poisons and diseases are cureable. I don't cry when you send me runningin flames. War is hell


We need to nerf the DEs and chefs their stuff isn't broken enough.






Okay where to start....


1) A novice medic can put out flames, for that matter anyone can, just use common sense if there is WATER around go for it.


2) Why do you say that you don't want this? It is in the works to have a DOT that does not Incapp. You seem to want to bring us down to the level of a Combat medic with our damage. Wouldn't that mean that we'd basically be a Combat Medic that cannot heal( not everyone takes Novice Medic btw) but has aDOT, and a couple of Heavy Weapons?


3) The statement that we have Rifle,Carbine and Pistol is totally moronic, Everyone has those weapons and if you don't have atleast one at Tier 4 then why even bother attacking a Commando,Bounty Hunter oreven a Chef for that matter.


4) Please let us know who is coming over to the CM boards and saying they should be nerfed... We do really want to know, if it's aperson with 1 post and has a Commando tag then I doubt that they are represenative of the whole population.


5) Iunderstand about the who idea of flames that can come back ononeself, but if you want to make that true thenYou'd have to agree that applying any AREA attack or DOT should do the exact same thing.Ive seen tons of movies where aCombat Medic applies a Diseaseand it affects everyone including himself.



In conclusion, sure I'm pissed about what you said and I'm sure that If you went on any other prof. forum and said the same thing, you'd get the same response. I used to be a combat medic so I do know how the profession is played also. (Gobe, Tarquinas Server)


And we DO need to nerf the DE and Chefs!! Ohh wait what is there to nerf about them?







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Saratoga
Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:52 am
#3

dude get a sense of humor. I dont want that. What I want is the DEVs not to add the + 1 HAM penalty to DOTs. My post was meant to be moronic. No harm intended. DEs cant be broken anymore... that is the point. Oh and there is no water on Tatoonie.


Why did I come here? I am only following the example of the CHs. the DEVs listen to their screams and we need the DEVs to listen to us.




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Nagamitsu 12 point WS/AS + arch (retired)
Jengi wookiee ranger (retired)
Medreka Doctor/musician (retired)
Caillech MBH (soon to be retired)
BetaZero
Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:20 am
#4

Why dont they just add a Tub of Water in every medical center (but it should take a while to cure the burn). Then people will stop crying about our burns.



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TechnoHic
Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:56 am
#5

LOL! Dude, you came to the wrong forum if you want the Devs to hear you.


ROFL


And yeah, I've noticed that the devs do seem to respond to the CH forum so maybe you should go pester them.




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Jeren_Sehn
Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:25 am
#6

I'd have preferred it if DoTS did incap, but were immediately extinguished upon incap. That way, you don't get up, and reincap a few minutes later, as that was just annoying.


If you're poisoned or set on fire, there should be a risk that that alone will kill you (well, for game purposes "incap you"). No one ever called the poison treatment hotline afraid that they'd be somewhat weakened by the poison they just ingested. The fear is being killed by it.





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TaloMox
Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:37 am
#7

Well if you are going to go that far with being able to set yourself on fire, then how about having guns jam and backfire doing damage to you, or while doing unarmed you break your hand and can't attack for a while.



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Mavarus
Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:47 am
#8

If flames should not incap, then they need to make it so all bleeds wont incap. I dont know why everyone is getting on commandos. Have u ever fought a master 2 handed swordsman. There bleeds are worse and they are one hit killers.



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Hitokiri_Manji
Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:36 pm
#9

They just need what everyone learned in school


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belgradar
Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:46 pm
#10

acctualy that is not true there is a small oasis that has a small lake. i remember coming across it once.
Polyantimer
Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:24 am
#11

No water on tatooine??! Haven't been exploring much, have you? In the NW corner there is the Imperial Watering Hole. A small area with a few trainers in a small outpost. There are a few small lakes NE of the Krayt spawns, and there is a decent sized lake SE of anchorhead. Just /burstrun it!




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StarNick
Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:24 pm
#12

"dude get a sense of humor"


yea and you also made a complete farse outa yourself too (original poster)


CM's poision can go thru walls..DoT cant...CM can apply poision alot further than us, and don't miss alot(if at all)


and saying go use carbines/pistols/rifles to incap...uhhh...that is the most moronic statement i have ever heard..you know why? if someone told us we had to use those weapons, because something with one of our *commando* weapons was going to be changed...there WOULDN'T be a freaking commando proffession in the first place..do YOU see any pistol/rifle/carbine stuff in our proffession? NO, only as a pre-req and thats just to become a master marksman..but to become one, we have to take up rifle/carbine/pistols..but that doesn't mean that someone can tell us that we should use those INSTEAD of our weapons


if you want to be funny, go to the general discussion..not here




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Galaxy_Horizon
Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:05 am
#13

Since when would being bathed in flames having your skin burned off your bonesand roasting flesh NOT kill or incapp??? Especially when the burned victim can keep on fighting? Go visit a major burn unit in you local hospital! This is the stupidest thing I ever heard!



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