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Thread: My PvP experiences on TC with the CU
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soal-farous
Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:29 pm
#1
okay, i've been dueling all day and here are my results and observations about PvP in the CU.
In order:
2 Duels with Kav: Lost 2, won 0
5 Duels with Mich'ael: Lost 3, won 2
4 Duels with Stern: Lost 1, won 1 (2 had to be stopped due to bug [i was winning too!])
2 Duels wih Ohetie: Lost 0, won 2
1 Duel with Alexander: Lost 0, won 1
as you can see, the more PvP i did, the better i got. i developed my stratagy.
The first few duels i jsut hit random specials ans spammed,and i lost horribly. This shows that you really needto have a stratagy with PvP in the CU. spamming doesnt work at ALL. You need to pay attention to see what special you need to land and when to counter what they do. if they have low health and are about to run, Route them so they can't move and you can finish them off. If your DPS is low, hit them with a DoT, Etc.
Having no combat que addded to the experience. No long did you spam and wait for your special to exicute, you had to pay attention and act-on split seconds decissions, like in real combat.
After awhile, iDeveloped a stratagy:
1- KD
2- Stun,Dizzy,Bling
3- Disarming shot
4- KD
5- Route
6- KD
7- Proton grenade
Rinse and Repeat
For most of the time i was using a FWG5 with a nice power-up on it.I was wearing BH armor with a Mark 3 Shield Gen and full Buffs from the frog.I would sometimes change to the Lightning beam cannon for the DoT. Most of my oponants would be in battle armor as-welland were fully buffed. Most of them used the Flamer or proton carbine with a few heavy weapons in the mix.(since i was dueling my fellow commandos)
After my stratagy was perfected, i won almost all my duels. But it wasnt an unstoppable stratagy. aAter my first duel with Ohetie, he got wise to my stratagy and developed a counter. The next battle dragged on and i almost lost. His on-the-fly stratagy proved good, but not perfect. a few more goes and he would of got me, unless i changed my stratagy.
The CU seems to make combat more dynamic and random and requires you to think. when to use a recovery, when to hit with a DoT, when to run away, Etc. no more do we see the be-all and end-all attacks and templates. no more Dizzy-KD. no more CM/TK.The Devs' vision of a average 1-3 minute PvP encounter is perfect, and works out well in game. battle doesn't drag on and get boring, but at the same time it isnt over in 10 seconds.
I am yet to fight any RIflemen or melee profs. I will look for some tommorow if i can. i might hop onto TC3 (copy of Gorath, my home server)and Duel some of my Jedi friends with my new template and see how well i do.
FYI, i am:
Master Commando
Pistoleer 0404
Smuggler 0040
Bounty Hunter 0043
with this template i was killing Carabineers, Master Bounty-Hunters, the whole lot. and they were killing me.
NOTE: there was a KD recovery bug taht sometimes worked to my advantage (but not all the time like some think *cough*Stern*cough*). But even when the bug wasn't there, i was still doing fairly good. (and KD recov. worked fine for me, losers 
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)Message Edited by soal-farous on 04-17-2005 01:30 AM
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StarNick
Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:34 pm
#2
But not for me or Michael it did
KD Recovery is hit or miss (ie "wonky") currently, it seems to sometimes not give you combat spam saying you're still disorientated to get up, and just has a cooldown. Thats it, nothing else happens. When I think its actually working, you get the spam...
KD Recovery is hit or miss (ie "wonky") currently, it seems to sometimes not give you combat spam saying you're still disorientated to get up, and just has a cooldown. Thats it, nothing else happens. When I think its actually working, you get the spam...
Novock
Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:48 pm
#3
StarNick wrote:
But not for me or Michael it did
KD Recovery is hit or miss (ie "wonky") currently, it seems to sometimes not give you combat spam saying you're still disorientated to get up, and just has a cooldown. Thats it, nothing else happens. When I think its actually working, you get the spam...
I found this too. I actually found when underhand shot was shot at me I couldn't get back up. I thought it had to do with teh shot but then realized what the problem I was having was. I had my autoattack set and it was interferring with my recovery. When it was on i couldn't get up when It was off I got up every time. It migth be something for the deulsters to look at.
soal-farous
Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:11 pm
#4
StarNick wrote:
But not for me or Michael it did
KD Recovery is hit or miss (ie "wonky") currently, it seems to sometimes not give you combat spam saying you're still disorientated to get up, and just has a cooldown. Thats it, nothing else happens. When I think its actually working, you get the spam...
maybe you guys just a really bad at PvP...
...well,just you Stern.
djkav
Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:05 am
#5
I was just amazed that me, as commando actually won an equally skilled PvPer 
Stern sounds an easy fight, I'll use him for training
Stern sounds an easy fight, I'll use him for training
Lugal
Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:24 am
#6
Did I miss where he stated he used his Commando stuff stuff? Besides a grenade? Also, commando's have no specials now, which is lame.
Nihuacatelco
Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:47 am
#7
I picked up mcommando/mmarksman/mrifleman/pistoleer0003 to try it out and had a lot of fun with pvp. The weapons are the specials, using a rocket launcher to kd works great for example. The only bug i noticed is that the plasma rifle DOT doesnt deal wounds, i also got hit with disease and was getting no wounds at all. Dueled a good mix of proffesions and won every duel, using stopping shot and then running out of their range works very well.
lifeisdeath
Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:27 am
#8
you say no more dizzy/KD? but those were the first two moves that you did.
DarkMiru
Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:57 am
#9
I just did a duel with a BH Pistoler and perhaps is that I'm not used to this system and the skills or with the PvP stuff but I lose them both.
He used root intimidate dizzy and stun KD and I couldnt get up.
My template is MC/TKM and smugler 0413 (I love slicing althoug is not a very good option on combat stuff)
The point is than a pure MC with no options of recovery stun dizzy and blind is going to have problems.
And that althoug is suposed that our specials are on weapons is not so easy changing weapon than changing the special attack that you make. I think that although we can say we can spam all the special and change our strategics have a bit problems because of changing weapon.
And we dont have a all powerful weapon to use all time as the before FLamer
I'd like to know your expericne and what to do with my template if any idea XD
maxtheusher
Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:00 am
#10
lifeisdeath wrote:
you say no more dizzy/KD? but those were the first two moves that you did.
Dizzy doesn't do the same thing any more. When you get KD'd, all you have to do is hit the appropriate recovery special, assuming youre not one of these bugged people.
KD is always going to be the first thing people do. It gives you a few free hits. But it's no longer, Guy runs up, KD/Dizzies, and the fight is over for the poor schmuck on the floor who didn't bother to stack fencer into his template.
Sabaoth
Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:04 am
#11
I am new at this and really need help and pointers could we start a thread on armors say like assult armors and such (mostly what I wore when PvPing).
I also fought a host of professions today and did not do well in my book, here are results
1st guy I fought was a swordsman not sure of his template as I was overt and suprised him, got hit with a sith sword (a lot of dmg done to me)while KD/dizzyed did recovery to no avail. the armor I wore was Adv shocktrooper armor, no buff.
2nd fight was with MBH/pistoleer won this fight was non buffed same armor on he used De-10 pistol did a lot of dmg
3rd fight was with pistoleer MBH/pistoleer/carbs 4-4-0-0 got snared up and hit with underhand shot could not get back up at all lot of dmg done no buff same armor.
4th fight commando think he was as confused as I was I KDed him and shot him til incapted he wore comp armor non buffed
5th fight Pistoleer/MBH had to switch to rifles cause he used snare on me was a lot faster and incapted him pretty fast.
6th fight same as above
7th fight was with TKM/Mbrawler this time wore adv battle armor, guy incapted me in like 2 minutes of fight
9th and 10th fight were both swordsman that used hammers and sith swords I used Adv shocktrooper armor again switching from acid stream to LBC and not sure if the weapons were not fast enough or if the dmg was borked but didn't do much to these guys and they both wore RIS armor.
not sure what I am doing wrong or if I should be wearing different armor or what, I may add also that my template when fighting these guys are as follow
MC/Mrifles and TKA 4-4-0-0
not sure if this is right template or not can I get some info on this PvP as I am interested in it as a commando.
JoKen_Jash
Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:26 am
#12
Hehe. I think I got... what... 10 wins in an hour? And 2 losses.
First loss was to Onia, but the duel got really buggy, it would stop and then start up again, the ham bars were running wild, ect. I ended up on my back for like 3 minutes before we finally finished.
Second loss was to Mich'ael, whom beat me, again, with a buggy kd.
Anyway, I was Master Commando, Master Smuggler, and Carbineer 0,4,4,0.
And I have a sliced and puped Lighning Beam Cannon with 557.04 dps.
lifeisdeath
Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:48 am
#13
maxtheusher wrote:
lifeisdeath wrote:
you say no more dizzy/KD? but those were the first two moves that you did.Dizzy doesn't do the same thing any more. When you get KD'd, all you have to do is hit the appropriate recovery special, assuming youre not one of these bugged people.KD is always going to be the first thing people do. It gives you a few free hits. But it's no longer, Guy runs up, KD/Dizzies, and the fight is over for the poor schmuck on the floor who didn't bother to stack fencer into his template.
so can you use dizzy recovery while knocked down?
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