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Thread: New commando's hopes shatterd, Not sure what to do anymore :(

EnterTheWookie
Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:34 pm
#1

My names EnterTheWookie. I'm a Novice Commando/Ch on Corbugtis. I've been playing for a little over a month and a half or so, and finnally, after a long thought about it, i made commando 3 days ago. Now, i was really happy of course. Contrary to what a lot of people say, i sucked in pvp and mostly pve, seeing as though i only had 1/1/0/2 in ch, (now i got cm3 but still...) I never could do much damage, not even to save my life. When people started to scream nerf ch, nerf ch, i didnt know what to do! I sucked with my pets (gsp and grand wrix, cant call out both) and if they took those away from me i didnt know how i would defend myself in pvp or pve (my weapond skills were all messed up).


My friend had suggest that i should go commando, cause they could always defend themselfs and they were good, and it was somthing i could have fun at if ch's ever got nerfed to hell (wich will probably happen, already seeing effects of it). So i worked my ass off and got Commando. I felt like king of the world! I didnt have any speical attacks (didnt know u could use full charge2 till today) but still..doing 1k dmg every 4.6s was just so cool! I could actrually, dare i say it, kill mobs! I didnt want to pvp until i got flame single 1 and when i did..well..i had never felt so happy before. I mangaed to killa tka and bh before i was killed on my first test run as a commando (only killed bh cause i suprised her). I was doing flame single one for 900ish dmg, burning my victmes, then doing around 300ish average damage per hit.


Then what happens, i log on today to do some pvp and i find that my flame single one hits for 200ish (and thats if i even hit) and my flame thrower is now doing as much damage as some guy with a **edit** pistol! needless to say i was sort of pissed, but then came something tragic.. I was out hunting as overt Imp, just minding my buisness, using my at-st to help me and a few friends kill some kimos on lok, when this master commando comes in, uses some flame attack and hits my at-st for 5k dmg, plus adds a 1k burn, needless to say i lost my at-st (wich i workd 3 weeks to get) andmy damage againts the other commando sucked.


I have heard you guys mention that Bounty hunters do about same damage as commandos but hit faster and they are getting new weaponds (is that true?) and their special attack delays are less. What im asking u guys is that i am at a cross road. Im not sure if i should leave commando for bounty hunter. My flame thrower misses alot and i dont have pistoleer so the launcher pistol is usless, havent tried acid rifle yet though. But, im hearing good things about bh's so i just dont know anymore.


So im asking all of you, everyone in the commando community, to help me with this desicion (please no remarks about me being imperial or losing the at-st please). Im asking for the wisdom of the commandos to help me with this problem, should i stay a commando or seek bounty hunter.


I thank you all for your answers in advance.


(P.S. Excuse my spelling, its very dark and i cant see worth a darn in darkness)




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EnterTheWookie
Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:35 pm
#2

Some how my message was double posted. Please excuse this one and answer the other thread.



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EnterTheWookie
Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:36 pm
#3

Okay, what ever i type on one thread appears on other, so if the devs could lock ONE of these posts i would appreacate it.



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RomanaCorvus
Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:53 pm
#4

First and foremost... stay away from my pizza.


Second, whew, there's a lot of issues here. Let me start with the side ones.....


Not to dwell on your ATST but just as an FYI, all armor in-game is bugged at the moment. Has been since the patch went up. That's a big part of the reason, I'm sure, yours went down so quickly.


Next, on the comparison to bounty hunter.... what you're asking about is all true, assuming you're only comparing the LLC to commando weapons. If you went BH which skill trees would you climb? Master, or just a few weapon trees? BH offers a great deal of versatility and options. Commando doesn't. Otherwise the classes do have many similiarities... lack of defensive mods, one completely useless skill tree, and the heavy weapon(s).


The most important thing I think you need to think about right now is the 2.5x melee damage penalty being applied to heavy weapons, including the LLC. There's no word yet from the Devs if this is a bug or working as intended, and it will affect you in either class. Might seriously want to wait and see how that shakes out before deciding anything as it may have a real impact on your choices.


I've been a bounty hunter and a commando (at the same time, even) and I love heavy weapons.... but with the 2.5x melee damage penalty, if it's not a bug I'll probably give them up.




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EnterTheWookie
Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:57 pm
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Im not sure if i can even get bh to tell the truth, it may take up to much skill points. i have 45left with novice commando and flame single 1, i dont havw trapping or camp making scouting xp or mastyer scout either. I would probably go with LLC, and maybe get eyeshot for scat pistol if i did choose bh.



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RomanaCorvus
Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:06 pm
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If you're intent on keeping CH at more then a few skill boxes worth, yeah, you'd have to go either BH or commando, not both. It's possible to get 2 trees in commando and 1 and 3/4ths trees in BH (or vice versa) but that's as far as the skill points stretch.


LLC is a good, solid weapon.... far far better then the heavy acid rifle and IMO better then the flamethrower in every way except for the built in flamethrower bleeds.


I'd suggest playing with a character builder.... there's a good one at http://swgcb.yogn.net/swg-cb.php?da=1that you can use to plan out your skill points and see what's feasible and what isn't.




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BenZion
Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:29 pm
#7

Hi wookie ,


i was master Ch and now im Master Commando ,


you are talking about the flame thrower , just to let u know ,


u are prety much useless, especially in PvP untill u hit flame 3 on the flamer tree , so unless u inted to go the full way to flame 4 or master commando i suggest u drop it, since flame single 1 isnt really that good.




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