Commando Archive

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LoRez wrote:

Ok, this has probably been beaten to death but I haven't been keeping up on anything SWG related since i quit in late 2003.
On a whim a friend and I came back. I just got in and found to my surprise, my shock trooper commando wasn't deleted. neat.

but what happened to weapons? My flame thrower and my republic blaster for example, now require me to be Master commando, not just flames 4 ?? and where did all my abilities go? all i see is the standard stuff like kip-up-shot, etc, in the abilities pane.

Where did my flame attacks go? and everything else?

Oh and, what happened to the certifications window ?

I read the big long combat update thing but this is.... very distressing.

So, I have my incendiary weapon skills leveled up, is there No flame thrower i can use? Or is mine just too.. "high lvl" ?
if so, what the hell am I supposed to fight with? harsh language?

Very confused. Played from beta through almost a full year and now i feel like a n00b again.
help!

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Welcome to the fabled Combat Upgrade. You may remember that the devs kept saying the combat revamp would fix us, and that revamp became the CU.

All weapons are now based on Character Combat Level (CL) and some are additionally based on having a certain skill. Flamethrowers have been split into a standard flamer given at Incindiary 3 and CL 40, and a Plasma Flamer which is CL54 and requires Master Commando. All existing flamers were converted to the Master-level Plasma Flamers, so you may need to visit a weaponsmith to get a standard flamer.

Rocket launchers have been nerfed all to hell (seriously...from doing 3.2k damage down to about 350, max...there are pistols that are more dangerous).

All our weapons do AoE now, except for the LP and HAR, I believe (and the Proton Rifle).

Good news is that the standard flamethrower has a range of 40 meters now! Bad news is that 40 meters is all AoE, and you'll aggro damn near everything in the area.

Grenade AoE is seriously screwed up. I've thrown a grenade at a lair 35 meters in front of me, and the blast drew aggro from a different mob that was 75 meters behind me.

We have no special moves anymore because the devs got the bright idea to build our specials into our weapons standard functionality. Apparently, if we had specials of our own, we'd be overpowered (ha!).

Long story short, the CU did a lot of good for all professions, us included, but it broke just as much as it fixed, maybe more.

Personally, while some things came out great for us (like reduced skill point costs), overall I feel we're worse now than ever before.

Message Edited by Ryubushi on 07-18-2005 06:45 PM

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LoRez wrote:

thanks for the help. i am starting to get the picture.

but i must say, wow, that sucks. my flamer was awesome and spendy. sigh.

i guess ill have to get one i can use and try it to understand the lack of special moves.

don't quite understand how im supposed to fight if all i can do is "attack" and i have no idea

how to differentiate between standard "boom boom" shot and the flame thing.

weird.

thanks again

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Well, to put it in perspective, the standard flamer's attack is now like Flame Cone in terms of animation and effect.

The Plasma Flamer's attack works and looks like flame single.

Something else you'll notice pretty quick is other professions were given state recoveries like dizzy recovery, blind recovery, stun recovery...we get none of that. All we get is KD recovery. If you plan on doing any kind of PvP, you're going to want to pick up another profession if for no other reason than to have those recoveries.

A good complimentary profession to commando now is carbineer, since that profession works pretty good now. Gives you state recoveries and lets you operate automatic weaponry, like a good soldier.