Commando Archive
Thread: Template Recommendation Request
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Motoko-Aurora
Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:28 pm
#1
I was a combat medic rifleman for a long time. The I went MBH Pistoleer. But I have never really been much ofa duelist and with Jedi hunting the way it is I never really see myseflf hunting anymore. My Jedi is Master Powers Master Enhancer and I love the ability to lay waste to a large group with my ability to use area states.
I am debating the following template choices.
1) Master Pistoleer Master Smuggler 0444 Commando - I have heavily tricked out Pistoleer armor and the smuggler will compliment it nicely. I can swap to some nice commando weapons and use AOE for the many many states I would have.
2) Master Commando Master Smuggler 0444 Pistoleer - Would gain some Master Commando only certed weapons and HW speed at the sacrifice of my pistol speed (which right now is as high as mathematically possible I believe).
The question I keep asking myself is that pesky first tree in commando. Is there enough benefit in Master Commando to justify going all the way instead of 0444?
jmonty
Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:36 am
#2
Motoko-Aurora
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:19 am
#3
That was extremely helpful. I read all of the threads and I have a much better understanding of what I'm getting into.
My question about what I would be gaining by going Master Commando vs 0444 Commando is still up in the air. I know I will be doing a combination of Smuggler Commando Pistoleer.2 will be masteries and the other will be 0444. I just am having a really hard time deciding whether to do Master Commando or keep Master Pistoleer. I am heavily modded in Pistoleer right now, and it would hurt to lose what I have, but if Master Commando is offering something significantly better than 0444 is I will do it.
jmonty
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:30 am
#4
i think that the best commando weapons are certed at master, so if you plan on taking advantage of commando's aoe, and want the most out of it, i'd say go for master.
Lord_Eoin
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:03 pm
#5
definatly have to say go with Master Commando. Even with our fixes, Commando really is only getting effective at master.
Motoko-Aurora
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:01 pm
#6
Well I went ahead and did it. I have to say from my first impressions I am not as happy with it as I would have hoped. I knew going in that I would be relegated to group support. But I was hoping for a few things that I thought I would get and didnt.
1) One of the smuggler moves says its a KD and isnt. Bogus. So now I have no KD other than a rocket launcher.
2) Rocket launcher says its AOE and really isnt. Bogus.
3) AOE isnt what I thought it would be. My Jedi is a Master Powers Master Enhancer 4040 Healer. When I area KD something or area Intim I hit a large area. One of my toons on Kettemoor is a Swordsman TKM 4000 doc, but while I was grinding I picked up the area KD move from pike and I hit a large area. Now that I have a flamer it seems to only effect a relatively small cone. I dont know enough about the weapons yet to know what a WS can do to alter the performance but I was looking for a bit more AREA in my AOE. Also, I dont know if certain weapons have a wider AOE than others.
4) Damage. I know certain weapons have a damage multiplier. But if I have a 988 max damage flamer, why arent I doing at least 988 damage, occassionaly?
Hoping a good WS friend of mine can make me some high quality weapons that can spice it up a bit. Other than that I will wait inside bases and strike fear in the hears if attacking rebel base hackers who blindly stumble down a tight corridor into my cone of death.
RankorCity
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:11 pm
#7
Bull -
If memory serves, the flamer lite has a wider cone than the plasma flamer. You might experiment, or do research here for the answer.
As far as weapons go, every other professions weapons (and builds)are far superior to anything Commando has to offer. Commando weapons are slow, SAC heavy, and are generally have less min-max than others.
Want AoE damage? Go Carbs/Pistols - Great damage attacks, ranged KD, great state attacks. Better weapons, better armor certification, more healing.
Commando specials are crap.
Grenades reuse timers are too long to be effective.
IMHO, if you are dead stuck on Commando, and can live without being a nuker, I would recommend either Smuggler or Carbineer to go with it. Improved Concussion shot with a flamer lite is wicked, provided you have good group communication. Carbineer is, IMHO, the single best stand alone prof in the game.
Motoko-Aurora
Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:45 am
#8
I have yet to see anything other than doc that makes a nice match with melee post CU. The skill points just dont support it, especially with the cross training in specials. You cant even use COB with a ranged weapon equipped. And to tell the truth, I sort of think thats the way it ought to be.
jmonty wrote:
that is funny, carbineer is the best stand alone prof now. when i left for my deployement, pre cu, i was a carbineer, and everyone was like 'you're stupid, carbineer sucks'. i guess it would have been better stacked with bounty hunter instead of swordsman.
so i guess the new specials don't make a commando / melee build much more viable?
Gudii
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:05 am
#9
Hey Bull
You might wanna consider something Like Master commando, and a 0040 tree in carbine for Improved Charge Shot wich I found rather handy before to knockdown
I myself go for Master Commando, Master combat medic and 0040 carbine
jmonty
Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:33 am
#10
commando / cm.. hmm.. i'd consider that but i'm anti-cm. 
commando / doc might be cool though, esp with specials.
commando / doc might be cool though, esp with specials.
jmonty
Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:20 pm
#11
that is funny, carbineer is the best stand alone prof now. when i left for my deployement, pre cu, i was a carbineer, and everyone was like 'you're stupid, carbineer sucks'. i guess it would have been better stacked with bounty hunter instead of swordsman.
so i guess the new specials don't make a commando / melee build much more viable?
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