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Thread: Expansion/CU announcement to come...
Message Edited by Novock on 03-09-2005 02:37 PM
Novock wrote:
How am I wrong I said in November this thing wouldn't be released till May?When is it being released? Is it true or not that it is being released in May? You may know more than eye and there may be more involved then I relaized but they are releasing this in May and it is part of a marketing scheme that has already started with the IGN article. So you're right there is no replacement for the truth. You can lecture me all you want but I haven't been telling people any day any day any day any day any day i have been consistent in telling them look at what SOE has done and not what they say.
You are the front runner to win the "pool" on when it will be released...We all made guesses back in November on when it would be released...some said by January...some said by April...and several folks said May...I even remember quite a few June's and "by summer"...Why did you pick May? Many folks picked May or later because they didn't believe that work had begun on the CU and figured it would take awhile...I don't recall anyone claiming it was to keep us around until an expansion release.
I didn't say you were wrong about May...I'm saying you are wrong about your reason for it being released in may...I'm saying that your theory that the Devs have been stalling all this time because they always planned on releasing in May is wrong. I'm not just making an assumption, I know they didn't always plan to release it in May and I definitely know it was not originally planned to conicide with the Expansion release...
And for all we know, the CU could get delayed again past the release of the Expansion...with everything that has happened so far, I wouldn't put it past them...even though the current plan is to release them together, they are still 2 seperate entities...they just work together...So, what would happen if the CU get's released in June...guess that would make you wrong about May as well as your theory...Then someone would come along and say "see...I told you all June"...
I'm not lecturing you...I'm just trying (and apparently failing) to convince you that there is no conspiricy theory here that the Devs always planned to have the CU come out with the Expansion and that they always planned on May as the target date. We'd be neck deep right now in Sandbox testing if it wasn't for some key issues that have occured since August...but unfortunately, those have been key issues that you and others haven't been privy to, hence the understanding for your theory, but it doesn't make your theory correct...it just makes it misinformed...
Look...I'm not trying to say you are wrong in making theories or that your frustration isn't valid...If I didn't know what I know, I'd be right there on the bandwagon with you and likely believing the exact same thing...but I do have access to more information...I just wish that access made me believable or gave me any credit...In a way, it's like a blind person telling a sighted person that the sky is purple...no matter how mucht he sighted person tells the blind person it's not purple, they blind person sticks to what they believe...
Message Edited by garvin on 03-09-2005 12:58 PM
Besides...having long discussions, even ones that appear heated, at least gives us something to do while we continue to play the waiting game...
Which I am winning, lol 
Been here longer than you, nana
ArtisanBrawler wrote:
Each of you stick to your own theory and wait and see what the truth brings. but for bleeding sake stop arguing among ur selves were ALL commandos together were all in the same rutt. lets support each other Novak and garvin should stop this now. its not the way to behave. lets all be friendly and nice again sort this problem out a mature way. this is getting us nowhere.
LISTEN TO ME :-)
Ummm...a dollar short and a day late...lol 
The discussion between us is over...
Novak and I both respect each other enough to be willing to let our passion shine through in our debates...and if anything, we both come out of it respecting each other even more while at the same time giving those following the thread 2 sides of a coin to consider while making up their own minds...
I honestly feel that some of the things that Novak has stated (and hopefully the things I've stated) have been very valuable and has gotten us "somewhere"...The fact that Novak feels lied to and I feel like I have answers, but can't give them, should send a clear message to the Devs that there are some pretty huge problems here...
Both of us agree on one thing especially...we wouldn't be having the concerns we are now if the communication pipeline was much improved.
To have a "good" discussion, every side of the issue needs to be addressed...if we just all "play nice" and support the same ideas, then what happens when the other side of the coin needs to be addressed?
Besides...having long discussions, even ones that appear heated, at least gives us something to do while we continue to play the waiting game...
Message Edited by garvin on 03-10-2005 12:29 PM