Commando Archive
Thread: Woo, we've got a Proton Rifle! And a bigger Flamethrower!
garvin
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:08 am
#53
I'll be very interest to see how the box III FT differs from power and abilities from the Master FT...should be interesting...if all goes well, we'll have reasons to keep both on hand, but I'll understand if one "replaces" the other...I've always been in favor of a weaker but faster FT vs. a slower but more powerful version (I carry both with me at all time)...I dislike the idea of "disposible weapons" which are weapons you don't use anymore because they are for use by those lower level then you. Each weapon should have strategic value in my opinion...that's what I'll be looking for later tonight when I get onto TC5.
As for theProton Rifle...interesting...and a Master Box weapon...hmmmm...I'm actually hoping this weapon is as good as it sounds, but DOES NOT have an AOE ability...we need a kick butt weapon that has no AOE that we can switch to when AOE is a bad idea...If it has an AOE tied to it, I'd already be in favor for seeing that changed...
For anyone who missed them...here is the commando specifics from today's patch notes...I do want to remind EVERYONE that nothing is set in stone...we'll likely see more changes in certs, and it is possible that before the CU hits live, we could lose the Proton Rifle cert...just keep that in mind...
PS...something that bothers me about the patch notes...the first note says "moved"...I wonder if that means they just moved that cert and left it's power levels as is (which is not comparable to other master box weapons out there)...I would hope that if it moved to Master, it's DPS levels should have increased to follow suit. That's another thing I'll be interested in knowing more about.
Message Edited by garvin on 04-07-2005 12:10 PM
invaliduser
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:10 am
#54
hmm..I really need to take my 'optimistic' pills...the way I read it was that our flamers would become the craftable flamers at incendiary3 and that the new plasma thrower would be a looted weapon at master (hence the omission of the word craftable against it in the post)...
Have I read this wrong? (I hope so)
btw - -I really need to get on TC and check out this proton rifle now!!!
Have I read this wrong? (I hope so)
btw - -I really need to get on TC and check out this proton rifle now!!!
Bionic
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:11 am
#55
garvin wrote:I'm actually hoping this weapon is as good as it sounds, but DOES NOT have an AOE ability...we need a kick butt weapon that has no AOE that we can switch to when AOE is a bad idea...If it has an AOE tied to it, I'd already be in favor for seeing that changed...
That's actually just what I was about to mention.
Ahaf
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:11 am
#56
Well to me a rifle is a precision weapon, so this could be our single target terminating device, thing.
and it shoot protons.
and it shoot protons.
FearlessBob
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:22 am
#57
Helios_SOE wrote:Current Flamers will convert to Plasma Flamers and will be pushed to master certs. This was done so the krayted FTs in production don't get hit with more of a nerf than necessary.Both Flamers are craftable.The Proton Rifle is a single target, master level weapon with stats to match.The Plasma Flamer does less AOE damage, but does more direct damage overall.The regular Flamer does more AOE damage, but less direct damage overall.
super sweet!
BlackMagik42
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:22 am
#58
Wow,... Just,... Wow,... Nice. And thanks for the Input Helios.
Novock
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:23 am
#59
Helios_SOE wrote:
CurrentFlamers will convert to Plasma Flamers and will be pushed to master certs. This was done so the krayted FTs in production don't gethit withmore of a nerf than necessary.
Both Flamers are craftable.
The Proton Rifle is a single target, master level weapon with stats to match.
The Plasma Flamer does less AOE damage, but does more direct damage overall.
The regular Flamer does more AOE damage, but less direct damage overall.
Nice! So then the new flamer will have nmore purpose than simply grinding then. Nice. You're cool again.
Insidius
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:25 am
#60
Helios_SOE wrote:CurrentFlamers will convert to Plasma Flamers and will be pushed to master certs. This was done so the krayted FTs in production don't gethit withmore of a nerf than necessary.Both Flamers are craftable.The Proton Rifle is a single target, master level weapon with stats to match.The Plasma Flamer does less AOE damage, but does more direct damage overall.The regular Flamer does more AOE damage, but less direct damage overall.
Where's the Proton Carbine going?
Master BH, right?
*wraggles eyebrows*
Iwami
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:25 am
#61
Awesome-sauce!
I was looking for a reason to pick commando up again, and now I have my reason.....well I woulda done it anyway
neinnunb
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:27 am
#62
Helios_SOE wrote:The Plasma Flamer does less AOE damage, but does more direct damage overall.The regular Flamer does more AOE damage, but less direct damage overall.
Very cool that the higher tier FT does not make the lesser one obsolete! I hope all weapons are designed that way where we may want to keep using lower tiered weapons even at master.
Helios_SOE
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:29 am
#63
Insidius wrote:
Where's the Proton Carbine going?
Master BH, right?
*wraggles eyebrows*
If I told you, then you wouldmiss out on the magical road of discovery. And how fun would that be?
Novock
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:30 am
#64
Helios_SOE wrote:
Insidius wrote:
Where's the Proton Carbine going?
Master BH, right?
*wraggles eyebrows*
If I told you, then you wouldmiss out on the magical road of discovery. And how fun would that be?
More fun then you know. Is there anyway you can help find out why we just see our toons in the shorts and can't see the servers when trying to login to TC?
LgEnder
Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:30 am
#65
Helios_SOE wrote:
Insidius wrote:
Where's the Proton Carbine going?
Master BH, right?
*wraggles eyebrows*If I told you, then you would miss out on the magical road of discovery. And how fun would that be?
Fun enough for me, I want it and I want to plan out my build already.