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Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 06-02-2005 12:46 PM

1) Still 0 dmg using Launcher Pistol (not just a cosmetic combat tab chat bug either...getting literally zero damage to nearby targets unless I use a true cone effect attack like Fan Shot).

2) Still getting terribly low dmg (period) using an elite Launcher Pistol with virtually the higest possible ratings for both speed and damage. The Launcher Pistol is currently flat out gimped.

3) Novice Commandos still forced to use said gimped Launcher Pistol to somehow magically grind out tens of thousands of Heavy Weapons XP to advance high enough to use other, better Heavy Weapons XP devices.

4) See 1-3 above and do something about them.

5) Repeat step 4 over and over until resolution is achieved.

I believe we'll all see a great boost to the damage we deliver after the elemental damage fix at the Test Center hits live server.

At least I hope so...

Some issues with recent patch changes: Radiant, Inoquee, All planets - combat related, Reported in game

I posted this in live, but wanted to share with the commando comunity too. Just some of my observations

First: Elemental damage is kinda working. Before commando weapon area hit targets were getting no damage, now they are ONLY getting hit with the elemental damage. The primary target (dude you have selected) its about a 90/10% split on Regular/Elemental damage. BUT you only get one OR the other, not the addition of the two as you should.

Second: Rocketlauncher should work area if used with an area attack ability IE: Fan Shot

Third: Area weapons with an Area attack move should gain an additional damage bonus not seen with a single target weapon. Essentially you are whacking everything with your combat move, and the weapon is doing its thing too.

Fourth: Plasma Flame Throwers are intermittantly forgetting they are an area effect weapon

Fifth: Please re-evaluate the re-use time on grenades. I need to check the other types but Protons are at 4+ minutes between uses! I'm sorry but realistically, short of nuclear grenades, this sort of cool down timer is silly. I understand people were abusing grenades before, you reduced their damage around 75% and with this cool down timer they are just silly. There is pretty much no reason to expend cash on them. They take time away from your primary attack and do no damage bonus over your primary attack if you are using the weapons you get in the command tree. The only use they have is to increase the ratio of combat xp a little, since the grenades still do combat xp damage. But if you are out grinding, the cool down makes it so you can only use it once every few targets. IF anything grenades as an item are designed to be pull/press and throw, generally taking less time to use than say an aimed shot at a target. And I know protons are costly for a WS to make, using 4 sub-components. To just break even at resource cost the price runs 35-40k a crate of protons(for good quality ones). Grenades should be a desired item, that gives that extra oomph when you need it, now they are all but useless. Ideas to help -> re-evaluate damage, give us back 10-20% at least on the commando only nades. Fix the loot component for crafting so all nades can use acklay venom. Have certain nades drop states like blind, knockdown, dizzy, stun. I mean an explosion easily can have these side-effects. reduce the cool down time to under a minute. A cool idea - give us a grenade throw attack moves that enhances damage, reduces cool down, throws states, OR allow commandos to equip a nade pack like a weapon and thereby use his/her attack moves with the nade. Either of these would instantly seperate commando from joe-public on effective use of a nade.

Sixth : no cool-down animation over the nades to show you where you are on being able to use them again, you have to try and use them and watch for the system message telling x seconds to use again

Message Edited by Varousk on 06-18-2005 06:32 AM

Message Edited by Varousk on 06-18-2005 06:33 AM

Dont think this is a bug, more of a "Uhh..." moment.

At novice commando, I can't use my flamer! Shouldn't we get certed for it? (man, i hate the new weapon certs)

Not to mention my wookiee isnt certed for bowcasters anymore...

The bowcaster requires a certain CL and a wookiee hand to use. The Flamethrower is certed at Incidinary weapons III (0/0/3/0), with the Plasma Flamethrower at Master Commando.

A word of caution with the normal FT, it requires both a CL and the 0/0/3/0 box. The CL is somewhere around 40-50, dont remember exactly.

"Third: Area weapons with an Area attack move should gain an additional damage bonus not seen with a single target weapon. Essentially you are whacking everything with your combat move, and the weapon is doing its thing too."

What do you mean exactly? Ive noticed using my carbine with AoE specials, I see a 300 or so damage increase on the damage being done to radius targets. For example, I hit a stormtrooper for 800 damage, but the splash damage says 1100 for his buddies. Not sure if this is intended or not, but if it is heh...our weapons will rock!

Btw ill update the issues thread soon (tm), been busy IRL...

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StarNick wrote:
"Third: Area weapons with an Area attack move should gain an additional damage bonus not seen with a single target weapon. Essentially you are whacking everything with your combat move, and the weapon is doing its thing too."

What do you mean exactly? Ive noticed using my carbine with AoE specials, I see a 300 or so damage increase on the damage being done to radius targets. For example, I hit a stormtrooper for 800 damage, but the splash damage says 1100 for his buddies. Not sure if this is intended or not, but if it is heh...our weapons will rock!

Btw ill update the issues thread soon (tm), been busy IRL...

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I dunnot about the carbineer specials. But Fan Shot with a pistol I do the same dmg # to all targets it catches

When I use a commando gun it reverts the the commando gun's area effects. I am saying if you use and AoE gun with an AoE skill you should see stronger results than either used sepeartly. So say the skill does 500 dmg with a normal gun, the AoE gun does 300dmg. use both together should see something like 700dmg.

Radiant.Varousk

Ok the Proton Rifle is bugged guy, apparently it was working fine before publish 17, and post pub 17, and 18 and all the update patches it still hasn't been fixed. I got one, and got a nice slice on it too. I would like to see this fixed at some point. but I remember when my Bwing was broken post a patch and it took a while ( couple months) to fix the S foils on it. So baracade yourselfs for a possible long wait before this bad-apple gets a new lease on life.

Just remember:

Message Edited by BadTouchKrotchy on 06-26-200506:39 PM

Message Edited by BadTouchKrotchy on 06-26-2005 06:39 PM

great list StarNick - kudos!

I would still like to seeat least one IV box get single target attacks for commandos. That is an attack which no mater what weapon you are using you will only hit 1 target. Even if the attack is for 50% of damage it'll beat trying to switch weapons - which is borked. (Not completely sure why when I try to switch weapons with commando ones equiped the 'hotkey' is ignored - and their is no visual que that the weapon swap is pending.)

Your #1 issue hopefully will be fixed ... it's really embarrasing to do a scatter shot with a commando weapon. Would be very cool if it actually worked.