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Thread: skills 250 man this sucks

maddogs
Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:03 pm
#27

You want to complain aboutbeing a commando?? BH costs 217. You have alot more points than a BH, don't whine. I have done BH and am working on commando. Commando's who have 60 more skill points RULES over BH. Your skill point cost should REALLY be alot hirer, or commando should be nerfed. I usually don't rant like this, but DON'T WHINE ON YOUR 1ST POST.



um dued i know you dont know much becous you have only begon to start playing the game thats ovious becous evrey noobs seems to go BH first then they dont like it so they go commando then when they findout they are crap they actuly start to play and realliz that other profesions way out proforum commando and bh


thing is is that both BH and commndo are majerly gimped becous they have 1/3 the defences any other combat class has tho bh cant raelly be consider a pure combat profesion (its mostly none combat skill points involed) but to put that aside both commando and BH need a majer buff in defances and commando needs a majer buff in dam pluss the restrictions (not being abel to use in any form of builing )removed off there hw and gernades


and as for bh dam out put i can not say becous that is curently the only rang prfesion i have not masterd yet





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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

maddogs
Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:06 pm
#28

"I CANNOT MASTER ANYTHING ELSE"



sure you can commando/smugler


and dont forget


tk/commando


or riflemen/commando


or carb/commando


or pistoler/commando


and you still have enogh for noveic medic when its all done and sed




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

maddogs
Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:03 pm
#29

Then you would see everyone mastering 3-4 crafting professions and flushing out the small time crafters.


actuly i wish this would hapen lol it would make weps armor and all the other stuff much better qulity and it wouldint cost as much in the long run to actuly find good stuff


on that thoght lets nerf the skill points it cost to master crafting profesions lol


but the thing with some one going bh commando thats a no go




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Jarsamuelson
Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:58 pm
#30






maddogs wrote:

um dued i know you dont know much becous you have only begon to start playing the game thats ovious becous evrey noobs seems to go BH first then they dont like it so they go commando then when they findout they are crap they actuly start to play and realliz that other profesions way out proforum commando and bh


thing is is that both BH and commndo are majerly gimped becous they have 1/3 the defences any other combat class has tho bh cant raelly be consider a pure combat profesion (its mostly none combat skill points involed) but to put that aside both commando and BH need a majer buff in defances and commando needs a majer buff in dam pluss the restrictions (not being abel to use in any form of builing )removed off there hw and gernades


and as for bh dam out put i can not say becous that is curently the only rang prfesion i have not masterd yet




I started the game on day one and finally gave up master bounty hunter a couple weeks ago. I laughed at the hologrinders at first, but I needed a change or I was going to leave the game. I got lucky and am doing commando and love it. I am at 3/2/4/1 commando and I think I can make an accurat comparision.


I admit I jumped off the deep end on my original post. How a commando can complain about skill points is beyond me. This is the best combat class period. There are better templates but with stacking dodge and such being removed commando will do well in PvP again real soon with the flame DOT's alone.


Getting back on topic. I know this will insult some of you, but I don't see any reason to complain about the skill points for commando. The point cost seems real low to me for the damage that can be done. I am speaking as an X mbh on the topic. I have done the 2 most costly skill point professions in the game. Commando is much better than BH. You guys are lucky master brawer isn't required. If that was the case then you would be on par with a BH for skill points and would still be the best elite profession in existance.




Jar Samuelson
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tntkiller
Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:47 am
#31

"I CANNOT MASTER ANYTHING ELSE"



sure you can commando/smugler





Mornie Utulie

Master Smuggler / Master TKA


maddogs
Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:38 am
#32

jarsamuelson


im soory for saying you new to the game drew the rong con sorry(tho what i sed is true must noobs master bH then commando )


now lets adrees you post with decinty and facts


I admit I jumped off the deep end on my original post. How a commando can complain about skill points is beyond me. This is the best combat class period. There are better templates but with stacking dodge and such being removed commando will do well in PvP again real soon with the flame DOT's alone.


no commando will never be the best pvper becous of this


ACID



I know, i can see the question marks:



A.daption


C.ontrol


I.mmobilisation


D.iscipline



You need all four of those to climb th ehighest ranks of PvP. for every thing missing, you get dropped down the ladder by one fourth.


2of them are easily attainable by simply having the right player. They are behaviour and mental ability. Creativity can win the day. But the other 2 (control and immobilisation) are unavailable for Commandos.


Commandos have no move to immobilize their target. No KD, no PC, no Delay. Also, in the field of Control, they lack. The complete lack of long range AE attacks cripples PvP ability. (sidenote: i only consider ressources with an accuracy above 70, everything with less accuracy is too unreliable in PvP). It would be different if Grenades were working as they should, but....


So, given the skills available to Commandos all they can get is to tier 2 of 4 in the PvP ladder.



Perhaps now you understand, why Commandos will never be PvP Gods.(my thx to inquistorpayne )


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Getting back on topic. I know this will insult some of you, but I don't see any reason to complain about the skill points for commando. The point cost seems real low to me for the damage that can be done.


the dameg you speek of were is it when is it how is it lol


man i know for a fact that all rang profesions out dam commando by 2x (i have masterd ech one and have done extansive tesing)but they spend 1/3 the skill points to do so and can hit from rang were a commando is basicly made to go 16m (melee rang )


and have master tk and i am geting rady to master the other melee (tk dos esly 4X the commando )


andwhy were on the compaering to lower skill point costing profesions the defnc we get is not 1/5 that of they get (tho carb is the lowest it still has more stat defnc then us )


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I am speaking as an X mbh on the topic. I have done the 2 most costly skill point professions in the game. Commando is much better than BH. You guys are lucky master brawer isn't required. If that was the case then you would be on par with a BH for skill points and would still be the best elite profession in existance.


see you must under stand that bh is mostly none commbat related profesion in skill points commandos on the other hand are 100% combat (we actuly spend i think like 30-50 more skillponts on combat thenBH do


and as for mastering brawler that wouldint be to bad but i rather it be haveing to mater tk and haveing to get 300k combat xp to get in to commando and have to pay the trainer 100k to get novice becous this would actuly be use full to us alot more then mastering brawler would


now maby your eyes can see alitel more light




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

LordSaibot
Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:26 pm
#33

tkm + novice entertainer + novice scout would never have to come to town


granted it wouldn't be the most powerful template, but they would make decent money, and be completely independent if they so chose.





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LordSaibot
Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:27 pm
#34

forgot, to heal bf they would have to come to town, but wouldn't need anyone




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