Commando Archive
Thread: commando vs. bounty hunter
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RogueCloudwalker
Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:25 pm
#28
Water I know can put it out. But tumble? Man I have to try that!
BeaverDive
Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:18 am
#29
When done right, bounty hunters can shoot a gun at a really fast pace...but at the moment, they are left with little defensive bonuses if any. At least with commando you have a lot more you could do and dabble in to make yourself powerful, especially if you are only interested in the flame tree.
HeyHolo
Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:27 am
#30
Where do you people get this? A basically has no defense mods to speak of, even as a commando they don't hit high enough to avoid your fire. I'm master TK/Master Commando, KD/Dizzy + FlameSingle2 equals dead BH. Which isn't to say they suck and can't beat me ever, but not gonna own me, not as pure BH. Now BH with pistol line and pistoleer is good simply b/c they'll just kite you to death. Bleed you, flame, then eye shot spam at 50 meters ain't much you can do about that. But masater BH is not gonna beat me any inconsistent amount of times.
They have LLC, garbage b/c my armor blocks 65% of their dmg, they have pistol fire, garbage b/c if it's PvP I'm gonna be buffed and pistol flame doesn't last long anyway. Best chance they have is kiting with Eyeshot and they better pray I never close the gap or they're dead. I just say if a master BH is beating you that badly it's you.
They have LLC, garbage b/c my armor blocks 65% of their dmg, they have pistol fire, garbage b/c if it's PvP I'm gonna be buffed and pistol flame doesn't last long anyway. Best chance they have is kiting with Eyeshot and they better pray I never close the gap or they're dead. I just say if a master BH is beating you that badly it's you.
Halmet
Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:38 am
#31
SolidGrail wrote:
As a former Master Bounty Hunter I will tell you commando is FAR FAR FAR better, why you ask?
Because they can also Master Teras Kasi or dabble in Pistol + Smuggler. Last Ditch Hurts comming from a Launcher pistol.
Commando is far better in pve also, without any added profession.
So if your using TKA and dabbling/using pistol+smuggler skills, how does that make a Commando better?
Id say that BH is better mainly because they have more weapons that are considered usable. We commandos have our flamethrower but what else? The acid rifle has accuracy and speed problems, no DOT, no AP. The launcher pistol is a novelty weapon. It has no specials or speed+accuracy mods unless you go pistoleer in which case you become a pistoleer not a commando.
The grenades also have some accuracy problems, they drain HAM rather quickly, have limited uses, their area effect doesnt really work except on you (I should know Ive almost killed myself before), and their range is pretty small considering a CM can lob poison/disease packs over 64m.
Heavy weapons also have problems. Apart from being very expensive to buy in mass, they have accuracy problems as well and have limited uses making them not a very practical weapon to use on a regular basis. This and the rocket launcher is the only heavy weapon that gets decent accuracy and speed mods.
This brings me to the flamethrower. Its a good weapon. It has decent speed and accuracy mods.
The problem with this gun is that it misses a considerable ammount even at master. The only part of the flamer tree that does high damage is the DOT. We can currently stack them, and dish out uber damage.
I personally think this is the way it should be considering that we have to spend the second most ammount of skill points to get master commando and the high restrictions placed on the DOT. Not to mention its the only DOT we get and it too misses a considerable ammount.
Now there are up coming changes that are going to take a significant bite out of the flamers power.
All in all Id say that commando is in a rut now.
Dafushpu
Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:29 am
#32
i dabbled in bounty hunter until i got sick of the investigation line and i have a thought about the two professions.
first off, bounty hunter is what sold me on being a commando because the LLC was so much fun to use. i thought that if the bounty hunter was a dabbler in all ranged weapons, then specializing in my favorite one would be great. i was wrong.
the flame thrower is a great weapon and i love using it, but as a bounty hunter i had 3 weapons trees that i used interchangably and enjoyed all of them. i had a weapon for every occasion, and all my weapons were very usefull.
as a commando, i have a ton of weapons at my disposal, but only 3 that are "usefull". they are the flame thrower, launcher pistol, and to a slight extent the acid rifle. the disposable weapons aren't worth using because they are to expensive (no fault of the crafters, i have seen the schematics for them) and their HAM costs are too high, even when buffed. with the acid rifle as broken as it is and the relitively low damage of the blaster pistol, i have found myself using my FT 95% of the time. the other 4.9% of the time i use my pistols to get smuggler skill boxes. the last .1% of the time i use my HAR or LP for mobs that are 100% resist to heat, but i still put my flame dot on them first.
Dafushpu
Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:31 am
#33
hit post to soon.
my conclusion is that bounty hunter, in my opinion, is a better class than commando. as much fun as i have had with this, i might just be going back to bounty hunter sometime soon.
Cyberpunx
Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:32 am
#34
Well, the "problem" with the BH is the amount of skillpoints he needs. BH isnt a bas pve/pvp profession, he has some viable specials and a big variety of weapons to use. But he needs 227 skillpoints if u wann amaster him. As a commando u can master tk, any other ranged profession or dabble into the CH-tree. Such templates are more effective in pve (commando/ch)or pvp (commando/tk) than a mbh imho.
StarNick
Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:16 am
#35
not only that..BH has very VERY little defenses..its more pathetic than us...
But then again, BH's are fast and quick...they're not suppoused to rely too heavily on defenses...tho they should get counters to reflect their quickness..
mean while us? we have about double or so ranged defense (forget if BH even has melee defense) but we arent fast or quick...in fact our Hvy weapons are slow as an iceberg and do about as much damage....so the BH's have a true disadvantage, but can still function almost like intended (atm all this 70-80% comp armor and buffs are hampering them just a tad bit..but thats doing that to all)...while us? heh we're no where near working as intended
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