Commando Archive
Thread: Hey SOE...here's your report card
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Xeero
Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:42 pm
#27
The whole situation is nicely buggered up really. SOE DOES have a lot to answer for, but you also have to bear in mind they're trying to make a game to cater to a very large crowd.
I'm glad Jedi is getting revamped. For the work taht goes into getting it, it SHOULD be the be all end all if s player chooses to go that path, of course with it's problems as well. That said, other profs should get some luvin' too as not everyone will be or even WANTS to be a Jedi.
I think my biggest gripe about this game since the public release is the complete and utter lack of choice for what's called an MMORPG. Where's the role playing if it's all nothing but go around and kill stuff or grind XP til you go cross eyed and start staring at your own brain?
I think the best example for this to date is the new Death Watch Bunker. I'm a casual gamer as far as things like SWG go, so I don't have tons of cash or a buttload of contacts, but getting Mando armor is a goal I wouldn't mind attaining. But how the heck am I supposed to go about doing this when on TC a 20 person group of master class chars who (presumeably) knew what they were doing couldn't get in? I'm not saying I should be able to solo the DWB, but come on! The game's been out for a friggin' year and we still haven't really made a SINGLE event or quest that helps cater to the intellectual or casual gamers. The people who'd rather thing than mindlessly barge their way in.
That was a nice thing with the ACTUAL SW RPG, Knights of the Old Republic. You had choices to make, and if you made the right ones the path, while diffiult, became far more manegable depending on whom you had with you and what you opted to do. Why can't we have this? I mean, look at every profession and they're all fundamentally the same (concerning combat anyways) you get one weapon to use at any given time. Sure you can carry tons of them, but you can only use one at a time. Melee fighters can drop a ranged fighter before he can blink, and from 10 meters away with a stun baton no less. Teras Kasi fighters can wear the heaviest armor in the game with no real downfalls what so ever, despite the fact that such armor would horribly limit their movement in a real fight. People can STILL shoot through terrain, and terrain itself does NOTHING for concealment or accuracy perks. Ranged weapons are effective to half or less of the range of their cannon and RL contemporaries. Sorry, but if somebody told me to pay $9000+ for a PSG-1 and it could only shoot to 64m, I'd force feed the thing back to the guy. Most high end rifles are accurate to the half km mark. Hell that's WHY you have a sniper to begin with, to pick off and weaken your opponents and throw them into disarray for the main attack. I also get a kick out of using weapons like the launcher pistol point blank with no penalty to myself, or any nearby enemies or allies. Oh! And let's not forget how animals continue to minlessly attack you while explosions erupt around them everywhere (FYI. Most critters run like the wind from explosions when not shocked to death by it).
The sick irony of it all? I still play, off and on yes, but I still play. But I only play because on those rare occasions I meet up with friends, we do make it fun, but as has been happening fo rth epast year, it'll burn out again and I'll disappear fromt eh game for a while.
That all said, I do think much of the upcoming new content is good (i'm honestly hyped about JTL...just hope I don't get over excited), but please SOE, fo the love of all that is holy, after JTL comes out, please focus your energies into making your game more enjoyable overall. Find a system that strikes a reasnable comprimise for everyone and THEN continue adding more content for us, because only then will it be worthwhile. This includes getting someoen on as a full time writer for quest plots and NPC dialogues (the gungan's don't talk very gungan-like 
)
)
Xeero
Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:43 pm
#28
The whole situation is nicely buggered up really. SOE DOES have a lot to answer for, but you also have to bear in mind they're trying to make a game to cater to a very large crowd.
I'm glad Jedi is getting revamped. For the work taht goes into getting it, it SHOULD be the be all end all if s player chooses to go that path, of course with it's problems as well. That said, other profs should get some luvin' too as not everyone will be or even WANTS to be a Jedi.
I think my biggest gripe about this game since the public release is the complete and utter lack of choice for what's called an MMORPG. Where's the role playing if it's all nothing but go around and kill stuff or grind XP til you go cross eyed and start staring at your own brain?
I think the best example for this to date is the new Death Watch Bunker. I'm a casual gamer as far as things like SWG go, so I don't have tons of cash or a buttload of contacts, but getting Mando armor is a goal I wouldn't mind attaining. But how the heck am I supposed to go about doing this when on TC a 20 person group of master class chars who (presumeably) knew what they were doing couldn't get in? I'm not saying I should be able to solo the DWB, but come on! The game's been out for a friggin' year and we still haven't really made a SINGLE event or quest that helps cater to the intellectual or casual gamers. The people who'd rather thing than mindlessly barge their way in.
That was a nice thing with the ACTUAL SW RPG, Knights of the Old Republic. You had choices to make, and if you made the right ones the path, while diffiult, became far more manegable depending on whom you had with you and what you opted to do. Why can't we have this? I mean, look at every profession and they're all fundamentally the same (concerning combat anyways) you get one weapon to use at any given time. Sure you can carry tons of them, but you can only use one at a time. Melee fighters can drop a ranged fighter before he can blink, and from 10 meters away with a stun baton no less. Teras Kasi fighters can wear the heaviest armor in the game with no real downfalls what so ever, despite the fact that such armor would horribly limit their movement in a real fight. People can STILL shoot through terrain, and terrain itself does NOTHING for concealment or accuracy perks. Ranged weapons are effective to half or less of the range of their cannon and RL contemporaries. Sorry, but if somebody told me to pay $9000+ for a PSG-1 and it could only shoot to 64m, I'd force feed the thing back to the guy. Most high end rifles are accurate to the half km mark. Hell that's WHY you have a sniper to begin with, to pick off and weaken your opponents and throw them into disarray for the main attack. I also get a kick out of using weapons like the launcher pistol point blank with no penalty to myself, or any nearby enemies or allies. Oh! And let's not forget how animals continue to minlessly attack you while explosions erupt around them everywhere (FYI. Most critters run like the wind from explosions when not shocked to death by it).
The sick irony of it all? I still play, off and on yes, but I still play. But I only play because on those rare occasions I meet up with friends, we do make it fun, but as has been happening fo rth epast year, it'll burn out again and I'll disappear fromt eh game for a while.
That all said, I do think much of the upcoming new content is good (i'm honestly hyped about JTL...just hope I don't get over excited), but please SOE, fo the love of all that is holy, after JTL comes out, please focus your energies into making your game more enjoyable overall. Find a system that strikes a reasnable comprimise for everyone and THEN continue adding more content for us, because only then will it be worthwhile. This includes getting someoen on as a full time writer for quest plots and NPC dialogues (the gungan's don't talk very gungan-like )
)
Xeero
Sat Jun 12, 2004 10:59 pm
#29
Heh I have to agree the game has potential. It's just I'd like to see that potential drawn out. I'm sure any one of us could offer boatloads of concepts (enough to make their own game in some cases) Just finding ways to fairly and properly implement them is the trick *shrugs*
DeneziB
Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:49 am
#30
Crikey. Middle School is out for the summer and all the kiddo trolls come back. Quit yer whining troll.
Geez, a troll comes back for a week and all of a sudden thinks he's qualified to review the whole of the game. Just leave already and enjoy your summer break before you start high school in the fall.
Dumbass.
StarNick
Sun Jun 13, 2004 5:03 am
#31
heh a 3 month-old post brought up...hmm wow it sure doesnt feel like 3 months since Ivoni left again... :/
Doody344
Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:17 pm
#32
looks like we have something in common Ivoni. I too took a 6 month break, hoping for all the major problems of this game to be fixed.
Well i was wrong.
The devs have made no real progress in the improvment of this game. Everything that made me quit has still not been fixed. After everyone completely bitching the devs out, all they say is "wait for the combat revamp"
well, we've been waiting for the combat revamp for close to a year now, and its still what?3 publishes away? I would have much rather had a working combat system then some minorly improved driods, which by the way, no one buys...still.
It sucks that they would much rather spend their time making the Image Designer (which was, andis stillan extremely pointless profession) better, when the combat classes need a much needed upgrade.
time to take another 6 month break...
RepublicSoldier
Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:09 pm
#33
DeneziB wrote:
Crikey. Middle School is out for the summer and all the kiddo trolls come back. Quit yer whining troll.
Geez, a troll comes back for a week and all of a sudden thinks he's qualified to review the whole of the game. Just leave already and enjoy your summer break before you start high school in the fall.
Dumbass.
TROLL you just called one of the guys that busted his but harder than most to put together a guide that's still being used to this day. You probably even used it. If you were at all familiar with this board 6 months ago you would know who Ivoni was. You would respect how muchhis post means. He did more research to help out folks like you and did more to help commandos out than you have. Before you start throwing around insults scroll up to the stickies and look for Ivoni's name....
His gripes were valid. The game has potential granted but the problems were and are so major that the game should never had been released in this state.
Feixeno356
Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:46 am
#34
Heya Ivoni. nice that you're back :-p
well unfortunately that is the whole thing: people are mindless zombies who want jedi and only jedi.
well unfortunately that is the whole thing: people are mindless zombies who want jedi and only jedi.
StarNick
Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:48 am
#35
actually no....he may still lurk, but cant post since he left for the 2nd time a while back...this is an old post that was somehow resurected...
...funny most of it is still true =/
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