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Thread: commandos going to be trashed??

aekeem
Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:08 am
#27

does it bother any of you that a master dancer gets more melee and ranged bonuses than us? they get +7 to both, we get +5, could i just get some explanation of that?

maddogs
Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:51 am
#28

omg lol i didint even c that lol aekeem now if that ant gay i ant no wat is lol


and no i cant explan why becous there ant no ression y lol ........... man devs wat in the world




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Hypo_Luxa
Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:31 am
#29

Oh yeah. Did maddog also forget he has a lot broader range of weapons than a BH. Both require the marksman tree, but at BH the only added weapon class u get is LLC. Commandos get HPBC, HAC, RL and grenades all at a lesser skill point cost. Unfair?



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maddogs
Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:00 am
#30

o yes madogs no all yes i do no thees thing and just to c how hard bh was to get i started another guy on a nothere sever had him for 2 weeks just to test some thing


heres how it whent it took me 2 how days to get all but sevrel sid of scout lol scout is the esyest thinfg in the who game to get u harvest 10 mt squilsand u have almost haf the of one sid of scout and just use trps on them to give mager xp using any trap on high end mobs and for the blaster wat u guys all clam to bee extremly hard to get that all bad servivel ep bs took me one night lol i made the tent micro set it up and walked away esy way to esy


as for mark well no need to go into that becous we all no commandos have to lvl that to


so it took me 1 week and a haf of power


it wernt hard at all and now to ask u guys some quations


1 how many of ur skillpoints r actuly dovoted to combat hum


2 dont have also have all the marks man skill tree to add to ur mods of ur weps were the commando dont hum


3 r ur wepons charg wepns and cost u 10k-50k to shot only 30 times hum


4 r u disined to kill big mobs like the commando hum


5 do u have fen death from drity fighting hum


6 do u kill ur shelf from ham cost after shoting 3 times with comp armor {r hw and r gernads kill us look}


u geting my point


well my point is ur a role playing profesion not a power profesion


and to u hypo_luxa i say u no nothin about r hpbc and r hac or r rl so dont be pointing ut finger at them and be saying look look for one thing the grenades r no good at all for anothere the hw dont rilly qulify as wepons in a senc there more like one wepon that has dif attacks if u look at them they all look the same lol and even cost the same recourses to make all expt the rl wichhas ben colord black and cost 10x more resoueces to make




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Firefield
Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:15 am
#31

First off. I couldnt give rats arse about what BH have or dont have. This is a commando board not BH.


As far as takeing down AT ST I have done that afew time andend up with all 3faction laying on the grounddead and mesend back to cloning station.


Ive just bought few proton grenade and useing that in combat is a stupid idea. you end up helping your target take you down faster if you do. just to give you an idea proton have stat some were between 1k min 3k max dmg with delay of more then 6 (if I remember right). you toss one out and you use up 1/4 of yourstatwearing full compo armor 1/5 if you not wearing armor. I under stand about the delay cos when you use grenade you have to put away your weapon to throw it and that leave you open doring that time. but the HAM cost is way too much for some thing that miss 4/5 of the time.


As far as combo goes, Ive take out 4people (1 die on the spot and the other 3 die from DOT) who stupid enought to stand too close to each other after they incap and death blow me. And that enough combo for me.


Oh, and before some one go off and shoot their freeking mouth about me bragging about killing 4 people if you havent notice I say "After they incap and death blow me"and that happen only 3 time of 20 time I try. Still dont get it? it mean I have revenge flag on them. still dont get it? meaning I can walk up close to them with out them able to attack me. Seeing where am going with this?


WhenimPvPing as commando. Burst run is your friend. When you spot enemy first thing you should do is burst run up to them get with in the range and flame the hell out of them I have a hot key set up so I auto follow at the same time as going into burst run.When people see commando comming after them first reaction is to run the other directionto buy as much time as they need to take you down(not that much time is need it for BH or Pistoleer) so you will need to get in range fast and hope that you do enough dmg to drop them before they drop you or your dot incap them before they death blow you.


Right now the onlyreason people fear commando is DOT and WOUND dmg that we deal out. and that the way it should be.If you dont think FT shouldntgive alot of wound go to Hospital and take a look at a burning victim and see what fire can do to you. To me DOT and WOUD should stay where it is. but since most of the time when FT do hit people get drop or almost get drop in 1 shot any way so I dont think it would hurt us that much


Commando are made to take out a group of people dumb enough to stand close to each other, base and Slow moveing Heavy armor stuff Like AT ST. Commando have no place in a duel ring. we can not and should not be able duel a BH and win. BH are made to take down 1 or 2 target and they are already effective at that. While commando on the other hand are not and have not been able to do what we support to do with Grenade andRocket launcher (flame throweris another story).


This is the way I see thing.I havent alway been right but I havent alway been wrong either. so read it the way it writen and see it the way you want to see it.


Eikichi, Master commando/master medic. Bloodfin

maddogs
Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:23 am
#32

im sory hypo_luxa i reread over ur post and i think i miss under stoud wat u were saying {i have this thing agenst bhs and i tend to lash out at them sory}


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I agree with bigdog.U shouldn't be soloing high end red cons.


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ur right high end red cons souldint be abeld to be soled expt for this fact \ when u have fen death and u do it right u can solo any i meen any mob if done right might take u a long time but i can be done


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does he realize that to become BH u have to close 2 full skill trees? That doesn't leave much room for anything else.


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yes i do but if u look the one skill tree has nothin to do with combat it has to do with role playing more or less or traking


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If u talk about training the BH has a way harder road to travel as far as required XP to reach their respective profession.


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as i pointed at in the other post scouts esy to get tho ppl say its hard its not basicly find a high lvl guy and muuch off him for xp as he kills u harvest and ithere sell that harv or give it to him and y hes killing the mob lunch all ur traps for trap xpat it very esy


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Also a commando is not inttended to solo things. Commando work as a team where as a BH was in tended to take down individual targets


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yes commandos r sapos to work as a team and i have 5 other master commandos that team up with me all the time but some times u wana c wat u can do so u go solo


and as for bh take down individual targets yes and no there only sapos to be abel to kill npc or huminod things not big mobs thats y u have all thos stat effact attacks c


i hope that helps u


and if u dont mined plzs pardon my atosis spelling and gramer




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

aekeem
Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:36 am
#33

Hypo, your knowledge of the game amazes and shocks me, or actually i pity you, are you forgetting about the BH's scatter pistol? yes you are, also on the subject of skill pts tell me this, the BH uses up a lot of skill pts to get where they are yes, but how many more elite professions can they dabble in after gaining master scout(THE EASIEST STARTING SKILL TO MASTER, TAKES LIKE 2 DAYS, everyone who cries about this is an idiot and should not be even be speaking) and master marksman. I'll answer this for you since you have shown your intelligence to be slightly below average, 6 of them, 7 if you count BE, how many can a Commando learn, 5, but 4 of those are combat professions, the other being smuggler. Commandos having access to only combat professions, unless they want to spend 15 of their skill pts learning novice scout, pretty much limits our options in terms of having a broad range of uses for our character, whereas the BH has access to Ranger, SL, CH which aren't really combat professions which would lead me to believe they wouldn't be the premiere combat class, but as we all know SOE loves the BHs so they will never get nerfed, SOE will just continue to make them better and better.
Hypo_Luxa
Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:59 am
#34

Ill accept the pity graciously since my intelligence is lacking. Thanx for the flame neway. If I remember correctly it takes 175 SP to master commando and 207 to master BH (don't quote me as i can't log in to check). At that point a commando can go either TK or smuggler and a BH can go Ranger, CH, or SL. U mentioned BE but that requires 29 SP of medic. So i would say a Master commando could dabble in 2profs with 75 SP left and a BH could dabble in 3 profs with 43 SP left or 4 profs with 14 SP left. I'm not that good with math either. Also as far as the weapons are concerned at master a commando has access to an additional 11 weapons. 3 grenades, 2 detonators, and 6 weapons as I understand it. A BH has access to 2. The LLC and the scatter pistol. If u use the argument about training and XP then BH should be the stronger class. Being a BH i really don't think it is tho. In a battle the other day with a ronto, I missed 11 consecutive shots even tho I have LLC4. If u want parity, make all elite classes master 2 professions before becomin an elite class. Then balance the weapons each class has. My point (since this is a game and not RL) is the class that takes the most skill pts to learn naturally should be the strongest as u have less skill pts left over to cross train. Try smiling once in awhile. It may help. Just my opinion and last time I checked I was entitled to that.



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maddogs
Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:07 pm
#35

hypo onec agen ur rong 1 bhs at this point r stonger then commandos


they can creem us with any of there weps if there arnt plan out fools let me explan


carb has a kd and dizzy attack if done right a bh can permently make u stay on the ground


pistol eye shot can own any thing


llc lol stats iv seen max on a llc 1150 max dam 2.2 speed ap1 with master mods r +80 AC +80 SPD max with flamer ive seen 1100 max dam 3.4 speed ap0 mods at master +70 AC +45 SPD quit frankly the llc creems the flamer 3to 1 and as for u missing lol wow u no how many times ive missed in a row with a ft up to15 timesand thats not rear it heps all the time


and onces agen no bhs shouldint be the strongest combat class becous they dont have haf of there skill points dedicated to combat were a commandos skill points r dedicated to combat all of them and onces agen i say bhs r role playing not power


and as i sed about the gernads r trash and the hw r more like one wep that has dif attack styles when it comes down to fight ing a bh has 3x more options y im stuck with only three flame cone or flame singel or should i fire that costly hw


and as for ur opinion yes u r entiteld to that but tell that to a judg when he sentenec u to death becous ubrocklaw he will tell u i have the facst u did it i dont care wat u think the law is the law


and i put down could hard facts




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Hypo_Luxa
Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:56 am
#36

I agree with you maddog. The hard fact is that both profs are broken in some form or another. I understand ur point about dedicated combat training. What is wrong is that a BH has to spend time learning harvesting and camping not even related to the career. I was basing this solely from the standpoint of skill pts used. Neways looks like they both got nerf-batted pretty good 4 now. At least u still have DOT. Guess we should all be combat medic's since they seem to be the ones that own PvP now. As far as the argument about combat training a BH needs the same training as a commando in overall combat training except for grenades and unarmed, so i can see ur point.



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Littllebunny
Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:13 am
#37

maddoggs,



You say that you can barely do faction missions in your composite armor? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahah



You must really suck! I think you better go back to your Nintendo cause this game is too hard for you.



I just ran a mission with my buddy a couple nights ago. He was a BH and switched over to commando. He only has 4 boxes in flamethrower right now but he was showing me how he can do faction missions in less than 50 seconds. He has made about 10,000 faction points in less than a week. He was covert and he ran up to the mission. He fired one shot and hit all (3) of the mission NPC's. Then he ran for a few seconds and they all burned up and died. He came back and finished of the little hq building. Boom, 5000cr and 58 faction points. He has been a CM, a rifleman, a BH, and now trying commmando. He said that commando is by far the easest one when it comes to faction missions.



haha, it is a good thing you never tried BH or carbineer. You would still be a novice....

maddogs
Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:31 am
#38

lol good one litelebuny now to hit u with the 411


1masters buged u miss 30% more at master


2 ur speed actuly gose down at master becous its buged


3 comp armor dos not have stun protection {when a st pulls out that billy club and wackes u with it u take in full dam 300 that kils u fast but when 2 st be beeting on u with that bily club u go down fast bleev me and when u cant hit worth ----- u get ur butt woped good {when u misse 5 times in a row ur prity ded by hen dont u think lol}


4 if u read the first post i dint say i had the proplem it was my bro that did i go tk on st and wip up on them its esyer with tk


5 if u read my othere post u will c that i actuly creem most things {wich meend u dont read at all }


6 i have 61k fp im maxed i dont do that many factin missons any more


so get ur facts stright befor u attack me i no ten x more about this game then u will ever




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Caelrie
Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:57 am
#39






aekeem wrote:

does it bother any of you that a master dancer gets more melee and ranged bonuses than us? they get +7 to both, we get +5, could i just get some explanation of that?






+5? Try +9 melee defense and +22 ranged defense.
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