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Thread: Commandos are in the top two for PVP.

RebSquasher
Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:03 pm
#14

for everyone that says TKA's are too easy to kill because you can just run away, you are dead wrong! A master TKA/ master Brawler can use unarmed lunge 2 which has a range of 10-15 meters. A TKA that raided our player city was chasing me through the streets. She was a master Fencer/brawler/TKA. I tried to hit him with flame single 2, but missed because of the dodge. She quickly hit me with unarmed lunge 2 form around 12 meters away and also knocked me down. I got up and tried to hit her again, but before i could shoot she KD/dizzy'd me. I wondered how she hit me from so far... i wondered lag? cheats? hacks? No, a master brawler/TKA in my guild quickly informed me of the long range of unarmed lunge 2.


To me this is a little unfair... being able to knock down someone from so far away, then running up to them and doing another KD move? This gives them no chance. Unless you have stretch arms you should not be able to punch 15m! I understand this is agame, but to me a master TKA/Brawler seems ALMOST unstoppable.


I understand that if she didnt have the dodge from fencer she would of died in 1 hit by flame single 2, but that is still rediculous. To me Commando is a great PVP proffesion, but definetally not the best. I love commando too much to give it up, but the main reason i love it so much is because i usually dont PVP.


P.S. Yes I'm sure she was using Vibro Knucklers when she attacked not a sword!






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InquisitorPayne
Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:03 pm
#15

To throw in my 2 ct:


Commandos always remind me of suicide bombers.


They fight, they drop and then pray their Falme DoT will kill their target. Since i finished my template, not one Commando hit me (read: not only not beat me, but not hit me!)


Their accuracy sucks (even with /aim)


Their speed is a bad joke


Their damage cant do anything against a Buffed and armored player



Trust me, they suck!


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nightwolf180
Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:18 am
#16

you obviously havn't fought against a master, just a 9 second recap time and if he was smart enough to wear armor too then well the fire dot will take you out if nothing else.


I find it funny that everyone seems to rely heavily on the specials though, I win almost all my long range duels by useing standard fire, it does 100-200 damage a shot in pvp and at 3 seconds (with a 5.9 speed flamer) I just sit and relax and hit a great deal more reliably at 62m then I do at say 30-40m I use the specials when I have to take a target (or more then one) down quickly at they are in range, otherwise I might use overcharge2 (accuracy with this attack SUCKS though, maybe 1 in 20 hit). Also if a meleer is trying to chase you down use supression fire from the ranged support line in marksman, position down and hardly any delay at all, or warcry, delay their attack by 10 seconds We have plenty of deffense against these people, its useing them thats the trick (at the right time), and not rellying on 1 special in 1 tree of 1 proffession. Someone else mentioned panic shot, theres also low blow or fan shot with the LP. Either of which can do damage or knockdown and then use flamethrower or last ditch and bam they are dead.




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RayvinCorp
Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:09 pm
#17






nightwolf180 wrote:

you obviously havn't fought against a master, just a 9 second recap time and if he was smart enough to wear armor too then well the fire dot will take you out if nothing else.


I find it funny that everyone seems to rely heavily on the specials though, I win almost all my long range duels by useing standard fire, it does 100-200 damage a shot in pvp and at 3 seconds (with a 5.9 speed flamer) I just sit and relax and hit a great deal more reliably at 62m then I do at say 30-40m I use the specials when I have to take a target (or more then one) down quickly at they are in range, otherwise I might use overcharge2 (accuracy with this attack SUCKS though, maybe 1 in 20 hit). Also if a meleer is trying to chase you down use supression fire from the ranged support line in marksman, position down and hardly any delay at all, or warcry, delay their attack by 10 seconds We have plenty of deffense against these people, its useing them thats the trick (at the right time), and not rellying on 1 special in 1 tree of 1 proffession. Someone else mentioned panic shot, theres also low blow or fan shot with the LP. Either of which can do damage or knockdown and then use flamethrower or last ditch and bam they are dead.






I have been doing about the same thing. I try and get to 16m and hit the flamesingle 2+warcry, then let them burst run away, and I wait till they are 50m before I burst run just so I can keep up at the 60m range, firing standard the whole time. I love doing that to pistol wielders, especially those that are holding a striker, sr combat or a republic blaster, since those have terrible long range modifiers.



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realvorda
Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:23 pm
#18

republic got horrible range mods? lol


my RP got a range mod of +0 at 64 meters.


other then that, I agree, when fighting a commando, its the DoT that normally kills me my 80% heat chest plate will stop most of the dmg. Lets just hope not 2 many people visit this board




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Bloodborn
Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:00 pm
#19

I find it funny that everyone seems to rely heavily on the specials though, I win almost all my long range duels by useing standard fire, it does 100-200 damage a shot in pvp and at 3 seconds (with a 5.9 speed flamer) I just sit and relax and hit a great deal more



Ok... um if yer 5.9 let's say 6 speed flamer is at this point 3 then your saying I as a Master Commando shouls have a .3 speed for my 3.3 flamer? um takes a little bit longer than .3 or literally .4 to shoot stuff from round to round.



spooooks
Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:25 pm
#20

Maybe Commandos arent the all mighty PvP godsand can get owned bydifferent classes(if you dont know what you are doing) but commandos are super good in PvE, and also taking down At-St and other well armor things..


Bloodborn
Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:36 am
#21

I think that is what the devs want us to be good at cause we'd own if we got any more PvP abilities.


Now were lousy at that yet we can still do our part NOT PvP per se but takin their toys out.



DeusManus
Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:41 am
#22

all we are is a support class. we go on raids and take shots at the big stuff. er..well...we take A shot at the big stuff. anyways, alot of the other professions alreadyseem to think we need to be nerfed, so if we suddenly get better at pvp, everyone else screams nerf...basicly, we lose.



Morauz
Bloodborn
Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:50 am
#23

LOL well we will just let them die man LOL oh sorry you didn't want me to save your butt so sorry LOL


I mean it too I was told NOT to use my specials and everyone kept dying BUT me LOL


First bloody thing attacked me I whooped em but good and they were kind enough to weaken it for I blew it away with flame single 1.... all I gotta say for all those that hate us for saving their tails? Die. /shrug


We suck enough as it is in ALOT of ways now they wanna nerf cause we can get good payout from missons and can actually SUPPORT them? They can bite me.




DeusManus
Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:54 am
#24

we're not an overpowered profession, just misunderstood.




Morauz
Evelas
Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:38 am
#25

I will admit to having killed several Teras Kasi Masters, but its like a 40% thing.


Though my last battle was pretty funny:


A really annoying TKM/Commando DABBLER (I hate dabblers, so I pissed him off on purpose), started stalking me outside AH. I got a TEF, and he instantly hit me with KD/Dizzy. Next thing I knew he was lying on the ground, incapped. As soon as I got up from the dizzy, I sat there and stared at him for a minute. Dunno what the hell he did, but he incapped himself.


Now I can truly call the guy a newb.




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derrang3d
Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:20 am
#26

rifleman is the best




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