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Thread: Why would we get nerfed?

NoxDenosis
Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:26 pm
#14

really why test this for 3-4 weeks to publish then nerf? makes no sense and i hope the devs agree and dont nerf



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Blue6
Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:42 pm
#15

Thorez, the only weapons we have with any armor piercing are the cannons and the rocket launcher. And they only have between 25 and 30 shots a piece. Anyone who would use that in a duel would be wasting over 1k per shot not to mention they would probably be dead before the thing fired. All of our regular weapons (launcher pistol, flamethrower, acid rifle) have no armor rating at all. Against them armor would be just as effective as it would versus any other AR 0 weapon.



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CooperHawkes
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:21 pm
#16

k the commando should be albe to beat any other class exept bh on the battle field


example


commando vs pisolier


commando should win becaue he used much more skillpoints if he would not .. then where is the reason to be a commando .. remember the pisolier has much more skill points left .. he can get for example a much higher medical skill to heal him self ..


if both players used the same ammount of skillpoints they should be even


for example


commando vs piostolier+medic



DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:32 pm
#17

Pistoleers problem is 3/4 there skills dont work.


A Doctor/Pistoleer is just as hard to get as Commando .. or BH


Your reasons for being dominate are worthless.




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BELIALhg
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:38 pm
#18

The commando is now really good at doing damage. This in no way means they are going to win every fight.


Ppl who whine that they can't win because the other guy does too much damage sucks. Thats the only reason they lose.


At some point yes you have to do more damage to win but damage on paper is not damage in game. Armor with the right res, KD, blind shots moving wile you shoot ect ect there are lots of ways to lower their ability to hit and there for lower their damage. If ppl want to stand toe to toe with a commando on the BF they should lose every time, but it's not the only way to fight.


Don't nerf a class because ppl are too stupid to learn how to fight them.

HargElios
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:41 pm
#19

At least in EQ, a lvl 23 or 24 character wouldn't stand a chance against a lvl 56/57 character or a even a lvl 44 character... Master Pistoleer requires 92 skillpoints, that's 36.8% done with your character... Master BH requires 217 skillpoints, 86.8%... Master Commando is 170 skillpoints, 68%... So in EQ terms, the Master BH is lvl 56, the Master commando is lvl 44 and the Master Pistoleer is lvl 23. How do you think the power ranking should go?



Elios Harg
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HargElios
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:44 pm
#20

Yeah pistoleer/doctor or pistoleer/combat medic is just as difficult to attain as bounty hunter. My friend is a master combat medic, nearly master doctor and has some ranks in pistoleer... she can beat my ass btw.




Elios Harg
Bounty Hunter
The Corellian Mafia
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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:44 pm
#21

you forget master pistoleer will have others skills as well, but even with them they are still gimped.. even pistoleer/Smugglers now


Even with Doctor buffs and Master Pistoleer (ALL SKILL POINTS TAKEN) i still cannot beat a BH with eyeshot.. and a little med skills


your reasoning is retarded




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DisplacedSurfeR
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:47 pm
#22

now im not saying nerf Commando or BH... but FIX pistoleer..!




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Zeeta
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:50 pm
#23

I just read through som epistleire posts and came over here to look. I see that most Commandos think that pistleiors are whinning becouse you do so much dam. well that is some of it. Most is that in the past update or "nerf" Pistleiors cant really do anything good with specials, andthere dodge isnt vary good. They now hae skills that do nothing. I am still a noob all together but I herd that commando was once varry bad. I don't know if this is true or not but now pistleiors aren't doing so well. I have read that some of you acully say to them HaHa I can do 6k dam. Or so iv read. Pistoliors are also sore that you do more dam. after reading some of this post I think that the dam. is justified. Pistleiors are hurting right now. I might not be anything yet but if you were as bad as I had herd you were once then you should now what the pistleiors are feeling. TY for reading this post.
Caelrie
Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:52 pm
#24






Ivameer wrote:
There is no reason to nerf us, it takes longer for us to get towhere we are, more skill points, just like its hard for a BH too. We dont have the liberty of having a strong pet, strong medical or any other variety to help enhance our character other than our weapons. Other professions that are mixed with medical skills and what not might not do as much damage but they sure can last a lot longer in a battle than someone without good medical. And on a final note, the devs tested all the guns, they did internal testing, they wouldnt have patched it if they thought it was too strong. I think everything is fine the way it is.





The end result to leaving certain professions three or four times stronger than any other is that players realize there is no point in being anything except that profession.


Be careful what you wish for.

HargElios
Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:55 pm
#25

Ok, maybe doctor/pistoleer isn't a potent combo vs. bounty hunters, but combat medic/pistoleer sure is, considering the only way I can beat one is to get lucky and one shot them.



Elios Harg
Bounty Hunter
The Corellian Mafia
Intrepid
Gray03
Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:11 pm
#26

First off - you need to get this simple concept through your head - The commando profession is not solely made up of its weapons.


Commandos have a TON of issues - most of them are still are around (the vast majority of them really).


This patch DID NOT FIX the commando profession - it gave the commando profession some really nice toys to play with so they would shut up. I'm sad to say that most of you seem to have fallen for it and have now retreated into a little corner with your "precious", muttering things about how you earned it fair and square and now those filthy, tricksey pistoleerses wants to steal it.


The weapon stats as is make no sense given previous statements and changes. If one-shot kills in PvP were soo bad that we had to have a 75% pvp damage nerf, why were 3-4 new weapons added that can one shot kill people? If a rifleman doing 8k shots was too unbalancing for PvE, why were multiple weapons added that can do that much or more? If soloing red cons is bad, why did they add weapons that are able to kill said red con in one to two shots?


None of what they did makes any sense - they had no idea how to fix any of the real issues with commando or with the BH LLC line, so they threw toys at it...now when the nerf cries from PvP and jealous people watching you PvE reach a crecendo , they'll nerf the damage again and we're right back where we started.


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