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Thread: Heavy Weapon Damage Caps...
Nakahs wrote:Omg i never saw a proton over 1100 damage anywhere!!! If that is true i want pics pls just to be jaleous....
5 in damage?
Message Edited by kaosdivine on 10-10-2005 12:37 AM
.Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-11-2005 01:57 AM
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Nakahs wrote:
Ah too bad that Proton Rifles are non existant Pre CU and the one shown in the pic is an exploited one with double damage Power Ups on it.U can easiliy repeat thisexploit by transferring ure char to another server put a pup on ure weapon and another when ure char is on the server u wanted it to be transferred. Voila there u have a Weapon like this....However the Devs are aware of this and it will hopefully being fixed soon. Man i wished so much it would be possible to get legally such a Weapon.StarNick correct the Dam cap on the Proton Rifle its sadly much lowerkaosdivine u damn lier!!! should have told me its exploited i wouldnt have so much hope to be powerfull even as a Commando...Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-11-2005 01:57 AM
Did you just call me a liar and exploiter?
Strong words my son, suggest you calm down, apologize and delete that comment.
to clarify it more with the words of someone who knows best about commando weapons...
StarNick wrote :
As for the Proton Rifle...as far as I know, they don't drop -that- high, but I have heard they can get -that- high.
For me this very clear what it should mean. It doesnt drop like that but it is possible to "get" it like that.Whatever get means in this context. I doubt it means the legal way. Now go to the WS forum if u still think nobody knows about how this is an exploit they are having alot of examples for this.
Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-11-200512:04 PM
Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-11-2005 12:04 PM
Nakahs wrote:
Nah its only the fact the u not stated that the stats were a result of a bug may be it wasnt by intent. But the thing is that people may think a Proton Rifle can drop with these stats what is just impossible. If u really didnt do anything by intend its ok and im sry to call u an exploiter. On the other hand all the people with exploited weapons say they didnt do anything they know of to get these stats.
I cant go and check ure log or something i see only the results and this one is an item with stats it is not supposed to have due balancing issues. Thats why a weapon like this dont drop - at least not by Necrosis but a Frog.
Its really exciting how much SOE lost control about this game due to all this bugs which are causing f.e. people running around with uber weapons or having unlimited mind or what not.
They should imediately stop developing new stuff like content and use all their ressources to fix the current systems it has been gone out of control since long and every day makes it worse so this game is only a joke oftriple exploitingtoonseverything overbuffed and withself generated gear that cannot be stopped by anything.
I have a feeling the same last words i already said 1 year ago in this game
Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-11-2005 12:31 PM
You know the one thing you seem to keep missing about his proton rifle? ITS SLICED!
I'm ammazed how often you keep missing that. It didnt drop with 1200's damage. It dropped with less and got damage sliced. And with a pup a gun like that -will- hit for 1400's. I've got one too that is just a little bit lower with a crappy pre-cu damage pup. it hits for 1348 or something like that. I'll ahve to double check it but it was, if i recall 1090 pre-slice, 8 percent slice should pop that up to 1177 +30% from a pup should push that up around 1530 if I have my math right. So it's entirely possible to have a legitimate proton rifle that hits post slice and with a pup for 1400's damage.
I never said I looted it with that high stats (although some ppl on this forums do btw...). In fact I did not even loot it myself but bought it since it was one of the first proton rifles that came on Chimeara's market.
I had it ADK'ed the moment I bought it from a guy, then had it sliced by some other guy BUT only for 4% dmg, 2% spd & 3% crit since the Illegal Core Boosters were not very common drops that time.
2 weeks pass, and a publish and hotfix were introduced that affected smuggler and slicing (increased drop rate of smuggler loot aswell) and I got my hands on an ICB so I decided to finish my rifle with a tier4 dmg slice (8%).
The result is the rifle you have seen in that screenshot (669-1240 without the pup).
I can assure you NOONE did ANYTHING wrong or exploited in ANY way. I have no clue how the numbers add up to be freaking honest but frankly I don't care much about it either.
Nakahs wrote:
ps. btw i dont have anything against exploiters as long as they show their results in public so that devs are being aware of it.
I tracked your posts a bit and was very surprised... maybe it is you who wants an "I-win" button after all.
According to the PM you sent me I am almost sure I'm right.
ehm...hor can you lsice for 4% speed, 4% dam and 3% crit, then still slice it up to 12% speed?
I think you miszworded something there
Nah its only the fact the u not stated that the stats were a result of a bug may be it wasnt by intent. But the thing is that people may think a Proton Rifle can drop with these stats what is just impossible. If u really didnt do anything by intend its ok and im sry to call u an exploiter. On the other hand all the people with exploited weapons say they didnt do anything they know of to get these stats.
I cant go and check ure log or something i see only the results and this one is an item with stats it is not supposed to have due balancing issues. Thats why a weapon like this dont drop - at least not by Necrosis but a Frog.
Its really exciting how much SOE lost control about this game due to all this bugs which are causing f.e. people running around with uber weapons or having unlimited mind or what not.
They should imediately stop developing new stuff like content and use all their ressources to fix the current systems it has been gone out of control since long and every day makes it worse so this game is only a joke oftriple exploitingtoonseverything overbuffed and withself generated gear that cannot be stopped by anything.
I have a feeling the same last words i already said 1 year ago in this game 
Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-11-2005 12:31 PM
So...Proton Rifles I believe can definately get up to or near that value...but they don't drop at that value, hence will require some extensive modification. If they were craftable...I bet that max damage could easily be reached (probably is the case...even for looted weapons, they might have a max damage that is higher than where the players can loot it? Who knows)
Kesslan wrote:
Nakahs wrote:
Nah its only the fact the u not stated that the stats were a result of a bug may be it wasnt by intent. But the thing is that people may think a Proton Rifle can drop with these stats what is just impossible. If u really didnt do anything by intend its ok and im sry to call u an exploiter. On the other hand all the people with exploited weapons say they didnt do anything they know of to get these stats.
I cant go and check ure log or something i see only the results and this one is an item with stats it is not supposed to have due balancing issues. Thats why a weapon like this dont drop - at least not by Necrosis but a Frog.
Its really exciting how much SOE lost control about this game due to all this bugs which are causing f.e. people running around with uber weapons or having unlimited mind or what not.
They should imediately stop developing new stuff like content and use all their ressources to fix the current systems it has been gone out of control since long and every day makes it worse so this game is only a joke oftriple exploitingtoonseverything overbuffed and withself generated gear that cannot be stopped by anything.
I have a feeling the same last words i already said 1 year ago in this game
Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-11-2005 12:31 PM
You know the one thing you seem to keep missing about his proton rifle? ITS SLICED!
I'm ammazed how often you keep missing that. It didnt drop with 1200's damage. It dropped with less and got damage sliced. And with a pup a gun like that -will- hit for 1400's. I've got one too that is just a little bit lower with a crappy pre-cu damage pup. it hits for 1348 or something like that. I'll ahve to double check it but it was, if i recall 1090 pre-slice, 8 percent slice should pop that up to 1177 +30% from a pup should push that up around 1530 if I have my math right. So it's entirely possible to have a legitimate proton rifle that hits post slice and with a pup for 1400's damage.
Not quite, when using a power-up the +30% is taken from the min damage rather than max. So in case of this weapon the base stats are669 - 1240 with +31.8% of the min added on (213).
Hmm still it's technically feasible without exploitation. I've seen a fair bit of variety in proton rifle damage. ones wehre the max was under 1k pre-slice to ones that were almost 1100 pre-slice. And SAC doesnt allways seem to be quite constant either. There's the odd one that drops with 120 cost instead of 119. I've also found that more and more of the looted weapons off of NPCs are actually not bad. (I recently looted an ALR that had almost 1k damage)
Exploiting them yes would obviously guarantee such results. But I wouldnt quite rule it out as being a legitimate weapon yet. I've also found damage slicing is abit... odd. The calculations dont allways add up to 8 percent. Some times I've noticed it will boost it more than 8 percent for some odd reason. (and it's not just rounding cause it's not off by 1 decimal kinda thing)
Kesslan wrote:Hmm still it's technically feasible without exploitation. I've seen a fair bit of variety in proton rifle damage. ones wehre the max was under 1k pre-slice to ones that were almost 1100 pre-slice. And SAC doesnt allways seem to be quite constant either. There's the odd one that drops with 120 cost instead of 119. I've also found that more and more of the looted weapons off of NPCs are actually not bad. (I recently looted an ALR that had almost 1k damage)
Exploiting them yes would obviously guarantee such results. But I wouldnt quite rule it out as being a legitimate weapon yet. I've also found damage slicing is abit... odd. The calculations dont allways add up to 8 percent. Some times I've noticed it will boost it more than 8 percent for some odd reason. (and it's not just rounding cause it's not off by 1 decimal kinda thing)
Oh i agree totally. Did a vendor search for a blackscale acid launcher yesterday. 7 diffrent weapons there with over 200 points in variance in damage and 5 in SAC. Picked the cheapest one up and sliced it up to 936 with 189 elemental damage.
Wasnt sure if it had an AoE attack like the acid stream launcher, however after testing it on a couple of friends its seems that it does.
Message Edited by Nakahs on 10-12-2005 08:30 AM